Billen76
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At what point did you realize JW's were a Cult?
by Think About It inmost of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.
althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.
finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.
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How to politely refuse a last chance meeting with the elders?
by bottleofwater inthe elders are giving me a chance to meet up with them a last time in order to try to prevent a disfellowshipping.
one of the elders will call me in two days to see what i think because i told him that i don't want to be in the religion anymore.
how can i politely and painlessly refuse?
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SHOCKING Fred Franz Talk
by brotherdan ini'm sure many of you have heard this (i have the entire talk, btw), but breaking it up into these clips makes it even more shocking.. this is from the filthy harlots own mouth!.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmkdwk5svxm.
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Those who have Judeo-Christian perspective: Is Satan a poor strategist?
by SweetBabyCheezits inso supposedly.... the devil had access to all the prophecies written about jesus, right?
it was all "written aforetime" so he knew in advance the details that would help people identify the messiah.
he was aware that, for the sake of god's will, jesus would have to die.. why didn't satan just protect jesus?
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Children have basic human rights, why does the US ignore this right in regards to JW's Blood Doctrine?
by sabastious ini can't physically or sexually abuse my child, at least legally.. why?.
because my country, and others alike, have adopted a code of ethics surrounding children.. ...they have basic human rights.... these rights transcend the family unit and it's jurisdiction.. that being said, how do jws hide behind "freedom of religion" when sentencing their children to suicide?.
why can't i start a religion that says it's ok to murder people?
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Dumbing down of the Witness Children
by wannabefree inperhaps dumbing down is the wrong term, but here is my personal observation, i wonder if others have experienced this.. you know how in the ministry you might meet someone and have to educate them about their own religion before you can teach them that it is wrong?.
i have noticed this with my kids.
i like to think of myself as a reasonable person, moderate, i have tried over the years to acquire balance about "worldly" people, teaching my kids not to be so judgmental, leaving the ultimate judging regarding a person's faith in jesus and jehovah's hands.
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John Lennon and JW... (...a credible source)
by Confucious inok.... of course john lennon's would be 70th birthday was yesterday.. so just a discussion - and please - no hate'in... just some discussion.. but i personally know of a very high ranking jw member (think highest you can basically get...) who related this story to me how some jw's talked to john lennon shortly before he wrote "imagine.".
when he told me - he did preface it by saying it was "hearsay..." that he couldn't prove it.. but listening to the song tonight - i could see how it could be possible.. thoughts?.
confucious.
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I just got a phone call from the branch office....
by ex-witness ini just received a phone call from the local branch office.
the person on the phone asked me if i was serious about my letter of disassociation and if i knew what that implied.
my response.
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"You can't just tell someone their faith is wrong without offering a replacement!"
by sabastious ini have heard this from several witnesses.. the assert that it is insensitive to expose someone's faith as invalid without offering another more valid spiritual path.. "the jehovah's witnesses don't have the truth, because xyz.".
^ i have been accused of offering a disservice because i can't offer the answers to the questions that i am debunking as fradulent.. has anyone else ran into this obscure argument?.
-sab.
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The fundamental flaw with the WTBTS as "God's Organization"?
by Essan inthere are countless issues that people have with the society and which together have led to many people realizing that it is not what it claims and pretends to be.
these include things like the secret un affiliation, contradictory and hypocritical stances, (malawi vs mexico vs un/ngo), the ever changing blood policy and ever changing doctrine, failed predictions for armageddon etc, etc, etc.. but what is the consensus about what the fundamental flaw is?.
what i mean is, many jw's hear about these various issues and manage to make endless excuses for them, even though this involves gross hypocrisy and excusing the society for things they would never excuse in other religions and which the society itself has ruthless condemned other religions for over almost 100 years.