djeggnog
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1874, 1914 and 1943
by TD ina persistent meme that floats around on jw related internet forums holds that christ's second coming was moved forward 40 years (i.e.
from 1874 to 1914) in the year 1943.
(this appears to be based primarily on a statment in the book god's kingdom of a thousand years has approached on page 209 and to a lesser degree, a footnote at the bottom of page 133 of the publication jehovah's witnesses - proclaimers of god's kingdom.).
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Is the Watchtower stubbornly holding onto the 70 year exile figure within the Old Testament?
by sabastious ini read outlaw's post about how he has watched people make an online career out of debating for and against arguments regarding 607 and 586 being the date of jerusalem's fall.
he's right that this has happened and it's had the nasty side effect of "mudding up the waters" so-to-speak in regards to anyone wishing to glean wisdom from these debates.. i am not a historian and when posts start getting overtly historical my reading of them seems to slow down and i find myself having to reread posts.. i am going to try to simply state each argument to see if i have put it together (correct me if i am wrong):.
the watchtower says that they default to the bible's figure of 70 years of jewish exile which is used more than once in the old testament.
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A Point Djeggnog Missed...
by Cameron_Don ina while back djeggnog said to me.... "evidently you want the readers of your book to believe what jehovah's witnesses believe[d] (down till 1919) to be a matter of embracing the beliefs of these dead men (russell and rutherford).
but jehovah's witnesses embrace[d] the teachings of jesus christ, our living lord.".
"captives of a concept" presents 48 examples where jehovah's witnesses (bible students) did in fact embrace the beliefs of the now dead men russell and rutherford.
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The imperfections of the elder
by outsmartthesystem inoutsmart - you keep mentioning the imperfections of the elders....and how people need to overlook them because we are all imperfect and we need to learn what true humility is.....etc etc.
dj - if this is what you believe to be true, then you are mistaken, because even though jehovah's witnesses are directed by holy spirit, we have at times 'gotten it wrong.
dj - i can agree that jehovah's witnesses are god's mouthpiece today, that we do speak for god.
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New CO Rules
by Quarterback ina few years past, i remember a post mentioning that this was the last period of the circuit overseer arrangement.
apparently, a local brother would be chosen to represent the society, and visit the congregations.
just wondering, because our co hasn't announced who the new co is, and he is suddenly retiring.
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Q for all Christians (not just JW) about the ransom.
by Anony Mous inso this is the basic logical flaw in christianity i believe.
a brother identified it from the stage for me in a talk.
we all agree (as christians and jw's) that the ransom was necessary because adam lost his perfection and everlasting life.. this is a paraphrase from the talk:.
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I also have questions about field service...
by losthobbit ini never was a jw, so please excuse my lack of knowledge here.... after reading some posts on this forum it seems i've realized that i don't fully understand what field service is.
it seems that field service is the following (and please correct me):.
- something jw's have to do for a specific number of hours per month.
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I don't get this...Jesus' birth and death
by poopsiecakes inforgive me if this topic has been raised before - and i'm still working it out in my head so bear with me.... conventional religions, including jw's, teach that jesus was 30 when he was baptized and began his ministry which lasted 3 years.
the year of jesus' death is said to be ad 33, which would make him 33. and that's what i've always understood.... even the wt of april 2011 says that according to 'modern calculations' the year of his birth is thought to be 2 bc and wikipedia says possibly as far back as 7 bc.
i've never heard anyone argue the fact that there's no way these dates add up.