Posts by garyneal

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How Jehovah's Witnesses benefit those humble enough to study the Bible with them.

by Stand for Pure Worship in

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excellent material can be found within the reasoning book, page 328, para.2, 3. occasionally, i see posters make presumptuous comments like, "all you need is the bible", or, "i'm born-again, so there's no need for spiritual assistance from another christian", or,"i'm saved", or my favorite, "jesus talks to me directly.

" on one hand, i can't be overly critical of such ones because they do attempt to read and understand the bible on their own.

(acts 17:11) not to mention they're generally peaceable folks, just self-misguided when erroneously believing that they can go it alone.

garyneal

That's right, under angelic direction, Philip sought out this man in need of spiritual assistance and brought him up to speed on The Truth as it was known in its limited scope for that time.

Under angelic direction? I don't recall the Bible saying that. I thought it said that Philip was being directed by the Holy Spirit. Of course, your statement makes sense in light of what the WTS use to teach when it taught that Jehovah was sending His angels to Judge Rutherford in the early days after Russell died. Yeah, maybe that's it.

Thankfully, they were humble enough to accept truth according to the Scriptures and adapt their mindset.

During my six years of studying with the witnesses I realized that they expected me to critically examine my beliefs against the evidence while refusing to do likewise. Which one is more humble?

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How can I stay motivated for field ministry?

by jgnat in

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thus asks my beloved and slow-on-the-uptake jw hubby, who is finding it increasingly difficult to drag himself out the door.

so far, i've tried to avoid sarcastic comebacks (i'ts boring and useless!

duh!

garyneal

You're a gem, jgnat. I should be taking notes.

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Comment made by an uber dub aunt

by joe134cd in

ok i've read similar threads to this before, but i just thought i would share a comment made by an aunt.

my aunts bible student died, and due to the families wishes the funeral service was given in another church.

my aunt with a disgusted look on her face when recalling the events to me said "and you know what, they must of only spent about 5 minutes talking about the person, and the rest of it was about the church".

garyneal

My Aunt with a disgusted look on her face when recalling the events to me said "and you know what, they must of only spent about 5 minutes talking about the person, and the rest of it was about the church."

"Oh, so that person must've had a kingdom hall funeral then. I hear that they do that," would've been my response.

But seriously, when my grandfather on my mother's side passed away, the pastor went on and on about, "I don't know if he had been saved or not," and then proceeded to tell us what we needed to do to be saved. I was disgusted, I mean this man could've at least asked the family whether or not my grandfather was saved.

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Why do so-called believers need my approval or that of any atheist?

by Band on the Run in

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recent posts from those who may mistakenly consider themselves "believers" demand a safe haven in this forum.

they don't like associating with atheists or someone like me.

of course, there are hundreds of thousands of sites for christian discussion already set up on the internet.

garyneal

What does it matter if others don't agree with you? People often cite Cofty, our loveable but demonic atheist. Cofty is not your father. I am not your mother. Why does it bother you so much that we disagree with you?

Um, I could care less what you two think about me of my opinions.

As for your posts, I ignore most of them because they are too long and windy. If I had to describe your posts, they appear to be from someone who is trying to show the board how intelligent she sounds by using a lot of words. I'm not impressed at all. Keep them short and succinct and they may have more of an impact.

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Do you think Born Agains are tired of waiting for the "Rapture"?

by booker-t in

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my heart goes out to born agains that are still waiting for the rapture and jesus taking them to heaven.

they are no different then jws waiting for armaggeddon.

how much time must goes by before both groups say "enough is enough"?

garyneal

jgnat

Is that like the whole earth being flooded, tec? Contemporary world maps were a lot smaller than what they are today. What did every tribe and nation look like to Nazarene fisherman?

What you imply, if I am correct, is that the 'whole world' was basically the fertile crescent or some small part of it. I held to the belief that the worldwide flood only flooded that part of the world but an interesting question was raised that got me thinking. If indeed only a small part of the world was flooded, then God's convenant with Noah to never flood the 'world' again was broken because we still have floods in small parts of the world. Unless of couse, His convenant only covers that particular part of the world but then it begs the question, was that part of the world flooded again?

Just thinking...

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Look, Up in the Air...It's a Bird, it's a Plane...No, It's a JW!!

by Cold Steel in

for you ex-jehovahs witnesses...and even you current ones...have you ever contemplated your future existence in paradise earth, should you be fortunate enough to end up there?

during those raucous, fun moments at the kingdom hall when you were contemplating eternity and having the times of your lives...did you ever speculate about what life would be like?

for example, would you have to walk everywhere or would you be able to fly around like superman?

garyneal

It's cute when a Mormon insults the beliefs of JWs.

About as cute as when I heard a talk in the kingdom hall from a brother describing the mormon beliefs and why they were false.

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evolution vs God mr comfort

by unstopableravens in

garyneal

I'm sorry but I do not find Banana Man's and Crocoduck Boy's arguments compelling. They are totally dishonest when they try to reason with Atheists and they're attempt to prove God without resorting to the Bible fails because they eventually go to the Bible to try to prove Him. Discarding the Bible and using evidence gets you as far as Deism but to say which God actually created everything you have to resort to the Bible, Koran, or some other holy writ.

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Born Again Christians and JWs should look at the bigger picture and stop fighting with each other.

by booker-t in

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it just amazes me how born again christians and jws are fighting and mudslinging at each other all the while not looking at the real problem in front of them the bible.

the bible has been used for thousands of years to committ all sorts of horrible crimes against others.

i am so sick and tired of reading about jws did this and that and christians did this and that when both groups will refuse to explain all of the contradictions and outright discrepencies in the bible.

garyneal

Yeah, I agree that all Bible groups should look at the bigger picture and stop all the fighting. However, I don't think you will find them coming to a concensus on doctrines. Born agains will never accept the WT view of Jesus or the Mormon views of God and witnesses will not accept the idea of a Trinity of Hellfire.

For example, I see ex witnesses come on this board and say, "The Watchtower got one thing right, God is not a Trinity!" They are just simply still under the influence of the WT even if they denounce them otherwise. An objective conclusion of that teaching, in my personal opinion, is that Bible verses can be plucked and interpreted to support both views and adhering to one over the other is just plain dogma.

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If you watch family guy you are into beastiality

by confusedandalone in

atleast that is what a group of jw's discussed on my wifes facebook account.

this is not the first time it has happened but it really took off this morning.. one sister says, "i was watching family guy with kids and the dog took home a human to have sex with.

i was appauled!.

garyneal

Hey religious nut jobs will be religious nut jobs.

Remember kids, don't watch Super Why because it uses magic. That's what our former babysitter said to my oldest daughter sometime back. Also be careful of Captain Planet because he is made of the same elements as Satan. Oh, and Santa is also Satan, just rearrange the letters. Let's not forget Sparlock, the warrior wizard, whose main squeeze is Smurfette because we all know watching the Smurfs is evil. To this day, my wife will not watch the smurfs because if this idiotic indocrination from childhood but the witnesses are not alone as I endured this crap too when I was an IFB.

That's why I called my mom one day and thanked her for not dragging me to church every Sunday morning when I was growing up. Praise Jah!

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jw and jw defenders, have you been born again?

by unstopableravens in