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new light on FDS and 1914
by inbetween inthe society claims now, that before 1914/1919 there was no fds, this means also, russel was not part of it, he was not the channel from god.. then the calculation for 1914, which russel made popular and promoted, was done in a time, when god revealed actually nothing, does this prepare the way to finally dump 1914 chronology ?
approaching the 100 year anniversary for christs supposed rulership, it becomes anyway more and more ridicolous.. i know, some argue 1914 is essential for their being chosen 1919, but now they say, they are somehow not appointed over the belongings yet, so also this aspect looses significance.
and the inspection of the temple can begin anytime anyway, it was convinient to link it to 1914 but i think its not really necessary.
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another possible reason the the new teaching GB = faithful slave
by inbetween insitting yesterday through another mindnumbing meeting, when the experiences of the yearbokk was being discussed, i noticed another mention of governing body, written in capitals.. then it dawned on me, maybe one reason for changing the understanding of the slave class could be, that the term governing body is not mentioned in the bible, which could become a weak point, especially defending against "apostate" ideas and accusations.. basically shifting the name to fds would mean to have a scriptural support somehow.. i also remember, in my days as a full believer, i never doubted the fds doctrine, but i was kind of disturbed by not finding the term gb in the bible.. on the other hand, back then, gb was not mentioned that often in the literatur as it is today.. .
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organisation necessary ?
by inbetween inthis weeks meeting, there was one talk about the need for an organisation, taken from the reasoning book.. the usual stuff, how would preaching be possible wiithout org, or the command (?
) from hebrews to gather together etc... .
however, i thought, the fact, that esp.
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TV Report on JW in German
by inbetween infor those who understand german:.
the german tv-channel pro7 broadcasted a program on wintesses last week, you can watch it still here:.
http://www.prosieben.at/tv/galileo/videos/clip/321351-zeugen-jehovas-1.3202746/.
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risc of allowed fractions
by inbetween ina brother in my hall mentioned in a twist of scriptures how we can thank the faithful slave class for warning us in connection with blood transfusions since 1945, because now the medical field recognises the riscs and try to minimize the use of blood.. despite the fatcs, that this statement is ridicolous in so many ways, i d like to find information (outside the "apostate" realm) that proves, that even allowed fractions are involing the risc of getting hepatitis, aids etc.... that would completely refute such a notion.. thx in advance... .
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striking similarity to JW
by inbetween inever heard of this church ?.
example: http://rcg.org/articles/abcc.html.
very similar reasoning to jw,...
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evolution
by inbetween insince my awakening from the mind control of the wts, it has been an exciting also frigthening journey of exploration and free thinking.. i would say, today i try to be open to anything, i ll go whatever direction facts show.
while i`m no scientist, i think i have a glue about the scientific method.
i also agree with the statemant, that some extraordinary claim needs extraordinary proof.. so far, it is a difficult question whether god exists or not, and probably in my lifetime i will not get a conclusive answer.. however, my concerns are about evolution, since even a confirmation of evolution does not necessarily exclude the existence of a god, it just proivdes an alternative explanation, in case there is no god.. even though i did not really read a book yet about evolution, i read other books of people, whose reasoning i can agree to, and they believe in evolution.. .
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Rolf Furuli
by inbetween inmy experience with jw so far taught me, that among them are all kind of personalities, with their particular reason for joining or staying in a religion (cult) like jw.. you find those with mental problems, those born in, who dont know any better, those with serious problems handling life (drug, alcohol, porn addic, who need strict rules to function).. but there are also quit normal people, who manage their life failry good, they often just accept anything of the org on a superficial basis, without giving too much thought, and going more or less through the motions.. then there are those, who really are deep thinkers, often with higher education.
besides their belief they take interest in things like quantum theories, history, even philosophy to a point etc..... however, they do not use their sharpe mind when it comes to examining their own religion.
i can in the meantime even understand this, because mostly they have emotional reasons as well to be a jw, and anything contradicting they put under "cognitive dissonance", and just dont think about it.. however, what puzzles me most, is when some of them, being exposed to apostate ideas, still use all their ability and skills to defend clearly ridiculous positions.. personally i also like to scrutinize things, i tried the same with some doctrine, particularly blood teachings, and could not find a solution, thinking it was my lack of insight.
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Drama DC 2011
by inbetween inprelude:.
still being in, i had to attend the 3 day dc this year.
well, actually, it was not soooo bad.
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Zone overseer visit in middle Europe Lösch GB member talk
by inbetween inthousands of witnesses carried by car or mostly busses joined the great worship of the gb, oh sorry jehovah.. here is a short summary of the talk given by losch: (my thoughts in brackets).
1) the beginning was mostly about closing branches, kingdom halls etc, but all a proof of gods spirit of course.. then some experiences, you find in a yearbook type as well,.
2) obey the slave, even if you dont fully understand, he compared it with a child trusting their parents (quit condescending, sheeple are like dumb children, mama org will think for them).