To be fair to the opening post, if people used to believe in "a vague, nebulous notion of some - hopefully benevolent - supernatural being" or used to believe in "an imminent god who answers prayers, observes everything that happens, cares about who we sleep with and how we do it and who is going to punish those who don't return his 'love' " ...then the question is "Do you still believe in such?"
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How Many People Here Still Believe In “God”?
by minimus inbecause of this site i realized that there were many people who were active jehovah’s witnesses really didn’t believe in god at all.
i’m curious how many people believe in god?
i’m not interested in debating why you shouldn’t have a belief in a god or should.
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Your Top Ten Favourite Movies?
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about favourite movies.
mine, in no particular order, are .... alien - a great visual film.
the chest-bursting scene is still great to watch, no matter how many times i've seen the movie.
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I may have given different answers to this question at different times, but today's answer is:
Rocky
It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World
Star Wars: A New Hope
Jaws
The Matrix
The Terminator
The Thing
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Blazing Saddles
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Daniel explanation
by Freedom rocks incan anyone explain to me please about the statue in the daniel prophecy coz i've always been curious about what people have discovered about it?
do the jws have the only explanation?.
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Personally, I believe that Daniel was written much later than it claims and much of the "dream" was already fulfilled. Like everything else in the Bible, theories abound.
The first four kingdoms have been identified as the Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Roman Empires. Daniel already said that Babylon, specifically Nebuchadnezzar, was the head of gold. Babylon fell to the kingdom of the Medes and the Persians. Greece became the successor to the Medo-Persian Empire. The “iron” empire can only be Rome.
Opinions differ on the fifth empire. Some have tried to identify various periods in Europe’s history as the clay-and-iron feet; others claim the feet represent the divided remnants of Rome before supposedly being “conquered” by Christianity. Still others believe that the clay/iron empire is yet to come: the kingdom of the Antichrist will be a “revived Roman Empire.” -
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When Will Jehovah`s Witnesses Appoint A Woman As A Governing Body Member.? It`s Long Overdue !
by smiddy3 injehovah himself gives the saying "the women telling the good news are a large army" psalms 68 : 11 coupled with the fact that a good portion of women partake of the emblems and wine at the annual memorial celebration.. identifying themselves as part of the 144000 that are taken from the earth to rule with christ jesus in the heavens.. isn`t it about time they were recognized for their contributions and given the fact that gods word the bible clearly states that 144,000 of anointed are to be taken from the earth which many women are a large part of.?.
revelation ch.14 :4 could be argued that they are not lesbians { "these are the ones who do not defile themselves with women ,in fact they are virgins, etc,etc.}.
i wonder just how many men who claim to be of the anointed have not defiled themselves with women and are virgins.?.
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Right after they apologize for being a dangerous mind control cult and admit everyone should abandon them.
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Conversation
by jdash inso this morning i had a conversation with my grandmother about going out in service.
remind you i'm only 17. i tried to ask her why i had to go out in service if this isn't what i believe in and whatnot.
she went on saying basically these are the rules for this house.
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I agree with Dubstepped about faking it as much as possible and sharing just a positive thought with people.
You can win a battle with Grandma, but lose the war of being able to ride it out until you are independent if you want to argue over recruitment. -
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This is my story
by paradiseseeker ini've already posted in this forum but i haven't told you my story.
nowadays i'm a pimo in my late 20s from spain.. i was born in the cult and i can say that during my whole childhood and most of my teenage years i believed in this.
however, i felt that here was something wrong with me, as i wasn't comfortable telling people i was jw, talking about jw stuff, nor did i feel "excited" and "grateful" whenever a watchtower publication told me that i should.
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Bravo for choosing to wake up and not waste your time in the cult. I wish you the best success.
It is possible that you just walk away from active JW to inactive JW. Perhaps (but not guaranteed) you will retain some contact with your JW family then. But no matter what, you are doing yourself a huge favor to follow your own path as you have laid it out. -
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Bucket list
by Jrjw indoes anyone have a bucket list and has it helped you achieve anything?
someone said i should do one.
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I have a bucket list and have done most of it.
Stuff like standing under a waterfall in Hawaii, snorkeling in the Caribbean, riding a bicycle in Beijing and climbing up to the Great Wall.
Mine started when I was in the Navy and wound up briefly riding a camel in front of the Egyptian pyramids. I thought I would keep going throughout my life and seeing stuff and doing things.
I still have left to explore Machu Picchu and white water rafting on the Colorado River (or some other canyon) and riding an open air vehicle on an African plain. I have ruled out ever going to Antarctica, but replaced it with Australia. But I should have plenty of time to get to those. -
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How Many People Here Still Believe In “God”?
by minimus inbecause of this site i realized that there were many people who were active jehovah’s witnesses really didn’t believe in god at all.
i’m curious how many people believe in god?
i’m not interested in debating why you shouldn’t have a belief in a god or should.
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How Many People Here Still Believe In “God”?
You are not interested in debating, but such a question needs definitions for the following:
"still"
"believe"
"God"
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And now for something you might be able to hear without repulsion
by TerryWalstrom ini won't give a long preamble other than to say this.
listen and see how you respond.
and now i'm passing it along to get your feedback.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28i3lwxw5xs.
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Psychology is a science, but JP, this clinical psychologist presents himself like a "scientist" who has spent time examining some kind of balance between science and belief. Yet he only seems to come up with reasons why the mind might believe, not why belief in Christianity is right. In reality, he is an apologist for allowing false beliefs to continue in your life without really examining the beliefs to see if they should be dismissed.
JP- "the stories in Genesis which are very old stories...maybe tens of thousands of years old."
Wouldn't a scientist trying to reconcile science with religion be less vague? He would be able to state a better detail than "maybe tens of thousands of years old."
It seems he thinks he needs to stay in favor with hardcore Christians. I could almost count him as an agnostic who sees value in belief and counts the value as the amount of belief that lives on and changes lives. Without batting an eye, if he lived in a Muslim world, he could say everything the same way about Islam.
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Cart Witnessing Is Getting People Baptzed!!!🐑🐑
by minimus inrecently i talked to an elder about this type of witnessing.
i’ve known him for many years and he is a very honest upright man.
he marveled at how many people have become baptized in the last couple of years because of cart witnessing.
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James Mixon-
I call FOUL!!!!! No way cart witnessing is getting people baptized, if the door to door work didn't do it surely the cart work is no better...Yeah, I will declare that your elder that believes otherwise is a victim of some kind of propaganda. Cart witnessing has gone on long enough that Watchtower has to have some kind of positive results from it, even if they are just cooked numbers from the tiniest bit of actual results.