literal reading of genesis chapter one brings no benefit because you would see god as speaking to fishes and birds (genesis 1:22) which we know is not possible.
however, with “a king’s mind” if one looks for the implied truth behind its literary allusions it may bring immense benefit.
(proverb 25:2) for example:.
Venus, maybe we are just having trouble with your analogies on life lessons.
The rear view mirror is important and still shows the present, not the past. We have to back up sometimes and we have to change lanes without killing pedestrians, motorcyclists, bicyclists, other drivers.
You better be careful with analogy. Same with Genesis and the Bible. I can live without any further "meaning" from that book.
"stop the presses!".
awesome blog article at bereans.net !.
http://beroeans.net/2017/08/07/stop-the-presses/.
Just hold your horses here. Let me sum up the "Other Sheep" thing from the Governing Body point-of-view-
"We invented the other sheep when we needed a doctrine to explain having more than 144,000 members. We used gobbledee-goop as our explanation and threw in some scriptures. Now, it has been established for so long that we can stop even acting like we invented them, but that it comes from Jehovah. If we happen to tweak a few old doctrines here and there to set ourselves up for radical changes, the sheep won't understand the first gobbledee-goop nor the new gobbledee-goop, so we're still good."
"Oh, but if some legal or money issue forced us to abandon the "other sheep" label, then the whole conversation is moot."
so i still have to go to meeting etc and my head hurts its just im trying to wake up and the teachings are getting shoved back in my head or with field service im giving people papers i want to rip it in my hands.. now its like i need a smoking break i have to just walk out the kingdom hall and get my mind back together.. just something thats new for me.
There are no easy answers for under-aged ones. Do your best to run through other stuff in your mind during JW stuff. Don't try real hard at "recruiting." Just go through the motions.
Sorry, don't have a real good answer.
mum has a mild form of lukeimia if she took blood like normal people she could live to be 100. but no, anointed sisters dont compromise jehovah wont allow it.
so here i am moving to sydney for one month going to hospital everyday putting my life on hold to watch my mother die slowly.
watching her gasp for air, struggle to breath.
My deepest sympathies. Your outlook really shows you cared.
so, so much has happened in my life over the years and continues to happen, but i won't go into the details as it would take a long time.. i don't really know why, but i returned to "the truth" 15 years ago.
in 2012 when the tv broadcasting station launched, i started to develop doubts.
the australian royal commission and other scandals made me angrier, and i now don't believe most of the core teachings.. the only reason i show up at 5 or 6 meetings each month is to keep in contact with my parents and a few other family members.. but it's killing me, literally.
It can be a balancing act to become PIMO. If you feel like jumping in front of that train, then you may need to be more OUT than IN. If you are miserable and suffering through meetings to maintain your family, then there are a couple things you need to think about-
1. Is it worth it?
2. Will you actually lose them if you were to skip the meetings entirely?
The point is that you will be happier regardless of consequences if you just stop attending meetings. And as a bonus, you just might retain some family.
I can't do this for another 20 years!
You already know you need to stop being physically "in."
i want something different on my next pizza!.
I am part of a crew that makes homemade pizzas about once a month or so. We make them with traditional sausage, pepperoni, onions, olives, basil, etc. But we often make one with leftover rotisserie chicken using bbq sause instead of tomato sauce. That one typically gets red onions and green peppers and lighter cheese.
We also make a Mexican pizza with taco-seasoned ground beef, cilantro, diced tomatoes with mild green chilis, green onions, a light amount of jalapenos, cheddar or other Mexican cheese, and have sour cream available when eating it.
i wanted to ask those of you who were born into the jws and eventually left as an adult, whether any of you have had any counselling?
i know from experience that being programmed by a cult since birth does not give us the social skills and knowledge to function and interact with people in the outside world as we were taught to avoid it.
those of you that have had counselling, do you feel that it has helped you?
Great advice from OneEyedJoe.
I went to extensive counseling, but I did not find a "cult expert." To make a long story short, I had unresolved issues concerning a suicide attempt that I thought didn't need addressing because "Jehovah" rescued me and gave me purpose in life and YADDA YADDA. So I got depressed when, more than 20 years later, that all turned out to be not true. My counselor aided me through my issues and we simultaneously (but mostly after dealing with the 1st issues) dealt with the JW's.
My point is, if a person leaves the JW's, they may have issues- their lifelong beliefs were a lie, they lost family and friends, they feel they wasted their life, etc. A good counselor will help you face your issues. If you are asking about counseling, you probably have issues. If you are distressed by your issues, get to a counselor. If you are not sure about the whole thing, read what OneEyedJoe suggested first.
https://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.
the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.
i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.
Didn't they say to the judge in the ARC that they dont discourage college?
Yeah, but that was said to people they deem "not worthy" of the real truth of the matter.
Plus, these guys always cover both sides of a subject just in case they feel a need to change course. Like good economics means people are not seeking God and are distracted by Satan so the end is near, while bad economics means it is getting close to a time of panic among the nations and the end is near. We can go on and on how all opposites mean the same thing or how things are good while they are also bad.
i have noticed another popular pattern of behaviour amongst witnesses in recent years.. many, and i mean lots of ones with instagram accounts have closed the wife's account, and have started a "couple's" account instead.
also, for families.
the children's accounts have been closed, and the husband starts a "family account".. it is mainly on the husband's device, and seemingly under his control.
Ditto to Flipper's comments about control.
I can see the cult wanting control on social media, so none of this surprises me. They already have to steer everyone to the internet for jwdotorg so they have to watch out for the double-edged sword biting them in the ass. (Really, I think we all know enough to skip elaboration on that.)
That said, I do have a facebook account and I have to guard against JW's coming in. I am just faded, so I want to be free to be myself without worrying about being reported. I have to watch the back door- friends of friends. But I don't watch it religiously, I just will deny being that person if it were to ever come up. But I don't tweet or instagram or snapchat. If one of those becomes the dominant social media, I probably will take it up, but with the same cautions.
has anyone else heard this?
a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?
a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.
pale.emperor, your link leads to "(according a video at the 2017 RC)."
I am sure it was put in there for Nazi elders to enforce, but it is not official policy if some video suggests or even says it directly that it is so.
As pointed out, if DF'ed ones want congregation approval, they will cooperate and sit in the back. If you go to a Kingdom Hall and don't want reinstatement, there is no "rule" about this.
I recall someone DF'ed saying "I'm not supposed to talk to you (JW's)." But that isn't true either. THEY are not supposed to talk to the DF'ed one. S/he can talk to whomever they please if they are not kissing asses seeking reinstatement.
