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  The problem with God.

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  god waits until we are genuinely ready to face hard facts before he opens our minds to just how equally wrong, aberrant and dysfunctional we all are.

  mostly we humans are only ready at the lowest point in our lives - often our deathbed.

  hence all the suffering we ignorantly cause others and ourselves in the meantime.. this is the reason why (watchtower) religionists can read rom 3:22-23 without waking up to themselves and getting it: "for there is no distinction.

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  My son was murdered today

  by truman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.

  i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.

  maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.

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  Anyone been to a meeting after a drink...or three?

  by MMXIV in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recall going to the second half of a thursday night meeting after what was meant to be a cheeky after work beer (three strong beers downed quickly on an empty stomach).

  i would have been ok had a caring elder not decided to grab me for some encouragement afterwards.. i hoped the faint odor of smoke on my clothes (smoking in pubs was still the done thing in those days) wouldn't be noticed but hard to hide alcohol on the breath.

  i tried to say very little and talk in a way that avoided me beathing over him.

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  Racism on the forum / Treyvon Martin

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  i've just been catching up on some of the posts that people made about this case and i am appalled at the blatant racism demonstrated by certain individuals.. yes, you are entitlted to your opinion ... but at some point your opinion needs to be kept locked inside your ignorant biggoted empty skull and not come out of your stupid fat mouth.

  it especially shouldn't be posted on my forum.. such racism will not be tollerated here.. i also would like to publicly apologise to outlaw for not being on top of this earlier and making sure that he wasn't lumped in with these despicable people for simply pointing out how out-of-line their behavior was.

  sorry my friend - you did not deserve that and i understand completely why you have had a break from the site..

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  Great authors.

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have so many that range from shakespeare, eckhart tolle to wilbur smith and subjects that cover everything from fiction, fantasy, poetry to non fiction.. i started reading a series many years ago but never got around to completing it.

  i've come across it again and am thouroughly enjoying it.

  the author is terry pratchett and the series is discworld.

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  How do you study the Bible? (for those that do)

  by Silent_Scream in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what have you found is a productive way for you to study the bible?

  do you have a group?

  or a solitary preference?.

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  Atheism or Agnosticism, which one is correct?

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has been bugging me for a while, and while i dont want to turn this into something about semantics i think that we should quickly define what an agnostic and atheists are.. richard dawkins defines 7 different types of atheist ranging from weak to militant atheists, but along these definitions there appears one definition with a strong resemblance to agnosticism.. to me an agnostic is a person who neither believes nor disbelieves in deity/deities, but there are those who define agnostics as a ignorant who simply just don't care or don't have the intelligence to come to sound conclusion.. an atheist can be a person who disbelieves in a deity/deities based on the current mathematical and scientific understandings of the universe, as well as understandings that can refute certain religions such as the strong influence of protestantism christianity in america.. .

  from here i will refer deity as anything ranging jehovah to a real spaghetti monster, it's not important because a) we dont know b)for the purpose of this discussion it is not important to define what we believe god to be.. an argument that can be used about a deity is -we cannot prove nor disprove that god exists- this is referred to as a null hypothesis, an assumption that we cannot create a hypothesis to prove or disprove this deity.

  this to me is agnosticism and is more correct than the idea of atheism.

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  How Many Years have your JW Relatives Shunned You ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i felt with newer members coming on and other jw fence sitters lurking it might be a good thing to explain what many of us have had to go through in regards to being shunned, cut off, ostracized from our jw families in an unjust way .

  whether we are dfed or inactive - many of us have shared this same fate and ill treatment.

  for many of us- it makes us stronger, more firmly entrenched that the decision we made to exit the jehovah's witness organization was the correct decision as no organization that claims to be " christian " would ever commit such horrid atrocities or justify it !

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  Matrix moment - what was it and when did you share it?

  by MMXIV in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those of you who had a moment like that from the matrix when you realised what you'd believed was fundamentally flawed or a lie - what caused that defining moment and how long was it before you could share your thoughts?.

  mmxiv.

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  Are you an athiest and why?

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm interested in finding out people's reasons as to why they are athiest.. i have simply through life experience, my research into religions over the years come to that conclusion.

  never thought i would come to a day that i did not believe in a god.

  believing in a god is like believing in super man, it would be great if he existed but well it's just a fairy tale.

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