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  Anthony Morris explains how God gives Decrees to man! New video edit.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i took the most recent video on "obey" and edited it down to its core.

  here tony explains that the decisions of the faithful slave are arrived at "collectively" but are not a "collection" of man made decisions.

  it would be comical if it weren't so sad.. tony video.

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  Seriously, I wonder if he even believes in God, because if he did, he'd be afraid to utter such blasphemy!
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  Is the WT SLOW-ly Changing the importance of the Door to Door preaching work to something more profitable?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its been a couple of weeks since a new c.o.

  was appointed to the circuit and im starting to hear tidbits of his talks..

  one brother told me that in one of his talks he asked the question; .

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  If so, this could cause the elderly to be frustrated and bewildered. My mom can't get the hang of her tablet and has been quite sour about it. I'm told she really enjoys"the ministry." If door knocking loses importance, she will really feel like she's not needed any more. Truth be told, she probably isn't, because she no longer has any money to advance the world wide jerks, I mean, work.
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  It came in today's mail

  by Virgochik in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came today, the dreaded envelope containing my personal copy of "return to jehovah" from my elderly, desperate mother.

  it included a small note asking me to read it over and to let her know what i think.

  she got it at her assembly.. firstly, i'm angry that she continues to push her religion on me, given that i stopped attending meetings over thirty years ago, and very offended that she assumes that i still want to be a witness, which is her choice of religion, not mine.

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  It came today, the dreaded envelope containing my personal copy of "Return To Jehovah" from my elderly, desperate mother. It included a small note asking me to read it over and to let her know what I think. She got it at her assembly.

  Firstly, I'm angry that she continues to push her religion on me, given that I stopped attending meetings over thirty years ago, and very offended that she assumes that I still want to be a Witness, which is HER choice of religion, not mine. I've shared with her how close my relationship is with Jesus, which I never had before, and that I hope to go to heaven. She ignores anything I have to say, and goes back to "you need to come back to meetings, you'll see how wonderful the Paradise earth will be." I said I want to be with Jesus in heaven-

  I'm stressed. What do I do next? To me, it seems like I can either:

  A) Ignore the envelope, like so many others before it, and act like nothing happened. Then she keeps sending me more.

  B) Kindly tell her to respect that I'm an adult woman and I've got my own beliefs, have a heavenly hope, how miserable I was at the meetings, to the point of panic attacks and anorexia, and there's not a snowball's chance I want to go through that again, how they've become like Pharisees, adding to the things written, doctrinal flip flops, the blasphemous Gibbering Blobby and how I believe Jesus wouldn't even recognize them as his followers. If Jehovah's blessing ever was with them, I believe he's removed it. I could go on and on about the back stabbing, politics and malicious gossip I saw as a child in the congregations. If I take this route, I will stand up for myself and force her to see me as an adult in her mid-50's. I'd probably lose my mom forever too, as she might shun me. She's quite elderly and I'm her only fleshly child. My husband suggested returning the envelope back to her. This would break her heart and she's in poor health. I don't want to kill my mother.

  Can anyone see something I can't, since I'm flustered, as to how to get her to quit mailing piles of JW materials, without tipping her off and getting shunned? In spite of my bitterness at how I was raised, I do care about her and feel a responsibility towards her; she's a little old widow lady now.

  If I ignore her stuff, will she be told to cut off ties with me? Is this it?

  PS, could someone please tell me how to reply to posts? I want to reply sometimes, but couldn't figure out how.

  Many thanks!
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  A Visitor's Guide To Scotland

  by cofty in

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  Virgochik

  I love Scotland! I'll always remember getting a coffee while waiting for our rental car in Edinburgh, when a man came on the loud speaker to admonish travelers: "You shouldna leave yourrrrr carrrrrrrrs own-ah-ten-deed!" I asked, what did he just say? Loved the highland cows and the Dewars distillery tour in Aberfeldy. Heard Amy Winehouse's Back to Black for the first time at a pub in Pitlochry. Couldn't get my hubby to stop raving about haggis, even tho he knew what they were made of. We've been to Scotland a few times, and always want to go again.

  Loved the funny video, thanks!
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  My 88 Year Old Mom Is Going To Special Meeting Today And Shouldn't!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mom only goes out for doctor's visits.

  they are "encouraging" her to spend three hours to hear the annual meeting at the kh.

  she is on oxygen and can barely move.

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  My mother texted me that she was going to the "Special meeting" today. She's almost eighty years old. All she mentioned later was goimg out to eat with the friends, so nothing earth shaking was said, or it went over her head. She is not a deep thinker but had a "lovely day."
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  Manchester dogs home burnt down in suspected arson, more than 50 dogs killed..

  by defender of truth in

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  2. current

  http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-29182471.

  ........ "more than 50 dogs on the verge of adoption died in the inferno.".

  can you imagine how terrified those dogs would have been?

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  I just read a 15 year old boy was arrested for the arson. Sick, twisted little waste of oxygen. Heartbreaking for the staff to have someone wreck the shelter they work so hard at. Im thrilled so many were outraged and donated generously.
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  Not on jw.org - comments regarding bad Jehovah's Witness employees

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.

  i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.

  i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .

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  An elder worked for me once at the post office. When the vacation schedule circulated for the coming year, he'd pick his weeks. After everybody picked, he'd say, "Oh wait a minute, I've got assembly days I need to add on. The dates were already spoken for, so he'd throw a fit about religious accommodation. The Labor dept. Said we had to give it to him. This gave us too many employees off on the same week and it was hard to cover. He was all smirky because he put one over. He called in quite a bit too and I'd find out there was a weekend assembly. Not to mention how often we'd hear his mail truck was way off his route, parked at his house. I didn't feel he was very honest and many of his coworkers didn't respect him because he played the religious accommodation card and was a crybaby. The way he acted and gave me, as a supervisor, a hard time, made me sure I never wanted to go back. He was lazy, dishonest and manipulative, and he was an elder.
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  Are Jdubs going to put the elderly out to pasture with JW.org?

  by Coffee House Girl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it will be interesting to see how things play out...but one example which got me to thinking about this is my mother.

  my mom is a 76 year old regular pioneer (she is one of those who believes that you are "nothing" if you are not a pioneer...the position is everything)-.

  i am moving in two weeks to go to grad school, so i have been trying to go out to visit...say goodbye...do things for her before i leave.

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  My mom's in her late 70's too, and she sighed that she really has little interest in getting a tablet, but she supposes she will have to buckle down and get one pretty soon. She sounded kind of stressed about it. It sounded like she's being pressured. She too is a pioneer.
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  Pets aren't people, says speaker at Regional Convention. Fido and Mimi better watch out! And instead of drinking wine or beer go do some gardening or play golf.

  by oppostate in

  1. social
  2. current

  a big discussion driving back from the regional convention about what exactly was meant about pets.. the warning was obvious to me.

  don't get pets, they cost time and money and you would do better to spend your time and money supporting the organization and going in field service.. as to the wine and beer, because the bro during his soliloquy admitted that the first thing he would like to do is relax after a hectic day at work with a glass of wine or beer, his conscience was traumatized.

  however he came up with a perfect idea, he'd go tend the garden (obviously a solution for a married bro) or hit some golfballs at the driving range (maybe he's not married).. maybe jesus should have told the wine guzzlers at cana to sober up and go till the fields.. .

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  When I was a teen, I was telling the car group a story about my beloved cat. The obnoxious elder who was driving turned around and told me, that cat doesn't really love you. In the great tribulation, it would eat your flesh off your bones if it got hungry. I was devastated. Then I thought about it, how I just did not believe that, and I hated that guy from that day on. Unbelievable.
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  BORN-INS! What Were The Most Annoying Quotes Your Parents Would Say?

  by OneStepOut93 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  regarding worldly people, shows or toys?

  etc...what quotes annoyed you the most?.

  for me it was "well, you have to remember, they're worldly"... "don't trust anyone who isn't in the truth" "they may be nice but they are not friends of jehovah"... just a few to name.

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  Which question will you be commenting on today? Underline it so you're ready when the brother calls on you!

  It would make your dear old father proud if you raised your hand at the Watchtower study.

  You have so little interest in the truth! Weeps into hankie.

  We give presents all year.

  That skirt isn't modest.

  We can't get you those meeting shoes until your father makes sure they won't stumble anyone.

  Why don't you cultivate some studies?

  Don't you want to pioneer during school vacation and please Jehovah?

  If you don't change your rebellious attitude, you'll never get a Christian husband. (I was a tomboy.)