no, i don't have this article yet, it will appear in the sep 1, 2006 wt.
it may even be a wt study article.. in the august 15 watchtower, the box "in our next issue" has three forthcoming articles, and one of them is "when a loved one leaves jehovah".
of interest, it's not when a loved one leaves the society, it's jehovah.. will keep you posted.
although Jehovah is mentioned in the title... it will be interesting to see how often Jehovah or Jesus is actually mentioned in the article.
I thought that Jehovah was synonymous with the WTS. Isn't that why in the second question at baptism they are to recognize that they are now part of the Organization. IN the Name of the Father, Son and the ORG.
The Claw
(acts 5:38-39) 38 and so, under the present circumstances, i say to you, do not meddle with these men, but let them alone; (because, if this scheme or this work is from men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is from god, you will not be able to overthrow them;) otherwise, you may perhaps be found fighters actually against god.
.. so if the wts really belive they are from god, why fear apostates.
if the wts is from men it will be overthrown.
Their 120 plus year record PROVES beyond ANY shadow of doubt that they are NOT from God.
CASE CLOSED
The Claw
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would you still be a jw if you had not been disfellowshipped?
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No Way
Welcome from Good Ole New York.
The Claw
i got another email from merry today and she told me i could pass on this info...... .
her mom is in the hospital now, preparing to die.
they are making her comfortable.
My heart goes out to you Merry. I know this must be a trying time for you. Hang in there. You know the board is with you.
The Claw.
Welcome from Good Ole New York
The Claw
schizm: here's something for you to consider, which you will no doubt disagree with, but that shows that the wts will refine its thinking on these issues:
and some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.
-- daniel 11:35 .
Schizm, I have been following this thread, I also would like to see you answer AuldSouls points. He made a point that I was thinking about as well. Jehovah's Witnesses themselves are just a splinter group from the Second Adventists. They are part of Christendom themselves. No better than anyone esle. In fact they are worse in many areas. Now instead of attacking me personally, why not try to answer AuldSouls points if you can.
The Claw.
just to let you all know why i won't be able to post for some time...i am finally getting in to the hospital for a much-needed operation that kept being postponed.
i have been back and forth to three different hospitals and various doctor's offices for tests, x-rays, consults and then more pre-op tests and x-rays.
(i have never heard of "nuclear testing before now...i wondered if they were going to send me to nasa!
" Dear Lord you know what our Annie is facing I ask that you place the HOLY SPIRIT beside her during this operation, guide the DR hands. You say where two on earth agree about something it will be granted Annie & I ( I am sure many others) are leaving this at the foot of the cross...I ask it in the NAME ABOVE ALL OTHERS JESUS CHRIST Amen"
AMEN.
Good health to you Annie.
The Claw.
these past few months have really been a roller coaster ride to say the least.
i know i haven't been posting much for the past few months, as i was really in a deep depression.
at the end of last month i moved back in with my wife and children.
Thanks again to all. It truly warms my heart.
SSPO: Welcome to the board. It can be done. Just love her and show her your love. My wife and I are getting along better now than ever before. I am determined to let nothing get between us. This includes religion. As far as 1 Cor 5:10.11 is concerned, they take this scripture out of context. You are none of the things quoted in these verses. You simply don't agree with WT doctrine anymore. I do not see this as one of the criteria for shunning you. But that is the way the WT uses mind control to control their flock. They will also use 2 John 10 against you as well. Again they take scripture out of context. One only need read the preceding 3 verses to get the context correct. Good luck with you and your wife. Keep us all posted.
The Claw.
i was doing some web surfing and catching up on my reading and came upon a post i hope may help some lurkers and seekers understand better what they are getting themselves into or may have already gotten into, by studying the bible with jws.. i surely hope it is not going against any rule to copy/paste this.
i will not include anything but the text.
i will say though that it is from a longstanding exjw support board that can be found here:.
4 What about speaking with a disfellowshipped person? While the Bible does not cover every possible situation, 2 John 10 helps us to get Jehovah’s view of matters: “If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.” Commenting on this, The Watchtower of September 15, 1981, page 25, says: “A simple ‘Hello’ to someone can be the first step that develops into a conversation and maybe even a friendship. Would we want to take that first step with a disfellowshipped person?”
Again the WTS takes scripture out of context. If you read a couple of verses before verse 10 you will see that John was talking about the fact that some were denying that Christ came in the flesh. This is what John was referring to when he said what he did in verse 10. I find it so comical that the WT constantly takes scripture out of context to suit their own dogma.
The Claw.
