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"Misquoting Jesus" - New Book by Ehrman
by sir82 inthis book was just published in the last month or so, i'm about 1/2 of the way through it.. the author describes the difficulty in discerning what exactly really were the original, right-from-the-pen words of the original writers of the new testament.
basically, the oldest surviving manuscripts were written decades, in some cases centuries, after the originals.
all copies were made by hand by untrained amateur copyists for the first 3 centuries after the books were written (until professional scribes started copying).. by comparing the thousands of ancient hand-copied manuscripts that still exist, there have been found anywhere from 200,000 to 400,000 distinct errors in the copying process.
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Elders School Notes, Part 7: Trust Us!!!!
by sir82 ini tried to edit part 6, but once again the system ate my notes.
so i will try here.. talk # 22: trust the faithful and discreet slave - brother sico .
synopsis: we can trust the faithful and discreet slave (fds).
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Elders School Part 5: Here's how you've been screwing up...
by sir82 intalk # 16: meetings that incite to love and fine works brother local elder .
synopsis: boring rehash of the od chapter on meetings.
elders should set the example in not missing meetings.
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Elders School Part 4: Beat, er, I mean shepherd the sheep
by sir82 intalk # 13: shepherd the flock of god in your care, part 1 - brother bethel-coot.
synopsis: jesus told peter to feed his little sheep, so elders should shepherd the flock.
elders should be sincerely concerned for flock, approachable.
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Elders School Part 3: Your talks kinda blow, brothers...
by sir82 inin the interest of completeness, i will post this part of my notes as well, even though it was not as controversial as other parts.
more controversial and/or ridiculous astatements to follow in later postings.
talk 9: preparing talks for the congregation - brothr local elder
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Elder school notes, Part 2: hysterical screed against education continues
by sir82 incontinuing this morning's notes, in the same format.... talk 5: overview - organized to do jehovah's will - brother bethel-coot.
synopsis: general high level review of contents of new "organized to do jehovah's will" (od) book.
pointed out how to use index (duh!
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Elder's School Notes Part 1: Quit being so materialistic, you slackers!
by sir82 inask, and ye shall receive.. i will herewith post my notes from the km06 elders school i recently attended.
i will post this in 6 parts, to give people a chance to read smaller chunks and comment on them.. a couple of introductory notes: i wrote an awful lot of stuff, and will not post everything.
for each talk, i will post 3 sections: (1) general synopsis, (2) personal thoughts & observations, (3) particularly egregious quotations.. the primary speakers, who delivered more than 1/2 of the talks, were a circuit overseer and a guest from brooklyn bethel.. to protect anonymity, we will refer to the sadly inane circuit overseer as brother sico.. and the old-timer lifelong brother from bethel, completely out of touch, as brother bethel-coot.. one more introductory comment: it seems the main points the society wanted to send to elders were:.
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Pat Robertson tells town, "Don't expect God to help you"
by sir82 inhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9995578/
i thought evangelism was supposed to make god more appealing to people?
the irony is, most jws will point accusing fingers at this representative of babylon the grape, but not realize that their own message preached every saturday morning is essentially the same: "worship god our way, or don't come crying to us when armageddon comes"
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Is it possible that a child molester is NOT a pedophile?
by sir82 ini realize many here have (unfortunately) much more experience with this sort of thing than i do.
any personal insight, or direction to research material, would be appreciated.. there was a letter to all boes about 8-10 years ago, saying that if an appointed elder had any incidents of child abuse in his history, he had to step forward & admit such, so that his status as an elder could be reviewed.
none of the elders in this congregation said anything.. it was later (maybe 5 years ago) discovered that one of the elders had sexually abused his daughters some time in the 80's, before his appointment.
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Hey you slacker elders...get off yer duffs!
by sir82 inprobably the last "gilead update" from the infamous "friend of a friend", as the class graduates this upcoming weekend.. here is one of the topics discussed recently in class:.
sometimes the elders feel overwhelmed with taking care of a large .
abraham's slaves then he obviously he trained them personally.