Casper-
The WTS drummed into our heads that if we left we would be "Dead" to them and to Jehovah.
So, I'm a Ghost ... at least, I'm a friendly one.
its friday, and you know what that means?.
its time for the weekly tradition of sharing what your name means and why you chose it.. there has to be a reason, and it must reveal to us something special about you.. sure this post has probably been run by the forum before, but many of us are new here, and 'by golly, we need to get to know you all better.'.
even if you are using your real name, why and the heck are you using it?
Casper-
The WTS drummed into our heads that if we left we would be "Dead" to them and to Jehovah.
So, I'm a Ghost ... at least, I'm a friendly one.
come, now, you who say: today or tomorrow we will journey to this city and will spend a year there, and we will engage in business and make profits, whereas you do not know what your life will be tomorrow.
for you are a mist appearing for a little while and then disappearing.
instead, you ought to say: if jehovah wills, we shall live and also do this or that.
At the moment I don't feel I have a spiritual guide...
Like White Dove said above... I am still on the journey, still searching.
For me, it's not as simple as "believe in the Bible, believe in Jesus, etc"... tho I do envy those who feel safe and secure in their beliefs, I'm just not sure that's for me at this time.
I am currently reading "Journey of Souls", that was mentioned on the board at one point, fascinating book... but then again, how does one know for sure?
So afraid of being gullible again.... thanks WTBTS.
Cas
i think the religion works on guilt.
everyone is made to feel they're not good enough some how or perhaps they practice a "secret sin" and it gnaws at them.
so they decide to pioneer or "do more", recognizing they can never really make up for whatever shortcomings they have.. were you a guilt ridden jw?
I was a witness for 13 years, not once did I ever feel "refreshed" as a witness, in all that time.
I lived and breathed guilt constantly, not from any secret sins, but from feeling that I was never good enough no matter how hard I tried.
Nothing was ever enough, the "Do More, Do More" mentality drove me insane.
Cas
this is for an upcoming youtube project.
i would love to do this on a mass scale... think there might be something "big" in the results.. 1. were you a born-in (including those who's parents converted while they were still children) or did you convert as an adult?.
2. when you left, did you still (a) fully believe in the truthtm, (b) partially believe or (c) realise it was all a load of crap?.
1. Converted as an adult
2. Partially believed - I had nothing else to compare it to at the time.
3. Partially believe - Still hanging on to certain aspects of it, dealing with the "What Ifs"
4. Concerned to a degree, but felt I made my choice.
5. Agnostic - always searching
were you and your family well received in the congregation or were you treated like crap?.
Not really, they were nice enough I suppose, but I always felt as though I was on the outside looking in.
My congragation was made up of 3 large, very long term families, no way a convert could break into that inner circle.
Cas
80 on a good day... mostly made up of 3 long term families
Cas
i was baptized at the 1976 "sacret secret" dc at inglewood ca there must have been 50,000 people there..
Broadbent Arena, Louisville KY. 1984
District Convention
Age- 28
Cas
i just recently got a facebook page and started to look up some old jw friends (im a long time fader).
i see there pictures and comments and feel kinda jealous that they all look happy (im in a rough stage in my life).
i never was happy as a jw, and since i faded i am more comfortable in my own skin....the future looks bright for me.
The congregation I was in was mostly made up of 3 long term familes, after the initial "Love Bombing" things began to cool off and I began to feel like an outsider.
Families would gather around each other in groups, which is to be expected I guess... leaving others excluded.
As time went on, I felt less and less as though I belonged there, and many times wondered what I had gotten myself into.
With the feelings of not belonging, on top of all the JW rules and regulations, No, I wasn't happy as a JW.
Cas
i do a lot of ebaying.. last week i sold a spanish edition of "hymns of millennial dawn".
it was not an original, in fact i don't believe "hymns of millennial dawn" was ever published by the societyt in spanish.
anyways, the auction title said "hymn of millennial dawn -spanish ed.
Ouch... !!! RR,
That's awful, I've done a lot of business on Ebay in the past and was just thinking of getting into it again, I may have to rethink it.
Sorry that happened to you, It never ceases to amaze me what some JW's will do, and then pretend they are so much better than others.
Some are just jerks.
Cas
my sister told me once she likes to "police" people, that it was sort of a game she liked to play.
she is true to her word, she does just that.
always seeking the negative, rarely acknowledging positive...anything.. is this common among witnesses?
Same in my area also,
In the beginning, while I was still a "Study", another well established Sister in the Hall had circumstances similar to mine and we became friends, so to speak... comparing notes. For some reason she would tell me things that I already felt were not in line with what I was learning.
Not really knowing how to respond to her, I mentioned these things to my Study Conductor, who immediately said the Elders needed to be informed of such. I told her, I can't do that, that would be "ratting" someone out. I felt horrible about the whole deal and felt hounded until she got her way.
A meeting with the Elders was set up, I told them what I knew, and from then on... was questioned off and on about any conversations the Sister and I had. I hated it and told them so many times, only to be met with... "We must keep our congregation clean".
I was so confused by it all, why, oh why... didn't I just walk away from all the BS then ??
Cas