Stress is tough on MS. People over cults man, do what's right for you and her. Good for you for taking a stand for her even if there are consequences to yourself.
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Moving Back to Chicago - Don't care
by LevelThePlayingField inmy wife was diagnosed with ms about two years ago.
we have been living in ohio for the last 5 years but were recently assigned to a new congregation because of the dissolving and sale of our congregation/kh.
my wife's symptoms spiked after being relocated to our new hall back in january.
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Episode 13 - Fernando is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses - Is Out Now
by dubstepped inepisode 13 - fernando is shunned by jehovah's witnesses, is out now.. one of the hallmarks of growing up as one of jehovah’s witnesses is that feeling that you’re never “good enough”.
it drives a lot of the depression seen in the cult, and is often something that people that leave take with them.
imagine if instead of just feeling less than because maybe you aren’t hitting some goal of hours spent knocking on doors or taking care of responsibilities in the congregation that are expected of you the problem was something as personal and natural as your sexuality.
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Episode 13 - Fernando is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses, is out now.
One of the hallmarks of growing up as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses is that feeling that you’re never “good enough”. It drives a lot of the depression seen in the cult, and is often something that people that leave take with them. Imagine if instead of just feeling less than because maybe you aren’t hitting some goal of hours spent knocking on doors or taking care of responsibilities in the congregation that are expected of you the problem was something as personal and natural as your sexuality. In this episode we get an intimate look into what it’s like to be gay growing up as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and it’s impact on Fernando, which I’m sure reflects at least parts of the experiences of many others.
You can listen to the "shunned" podcast on iTunes (Apple Podcasts), Google Play, your podcast app of choice (Podbean, Podcast Republic, etc.), find it on Youtube at my channel called shunnedpodcast, and even stream live from my site at:
http://shunnedpodcast.com/episode-13-fernando-is-shunned-by-jehovahs-witnesses/
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If the Gov. where you live outlawed the JWs would you turn in your family?
by blownaway ini guess it would depend for me.
some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.
many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.
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No. It's not my deal. That would be between the government and them.
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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?
by blownaway inmy mother was not the most emotionally stable person.
she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.
its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.
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@stuckinarut2 - Oh man, the lost opportunities. Not just education and career, but dating and figuring out who we were in relationships, the lost chance to play sports and learn to be part of a team, the basic loss of childhood innocence while the weight of the world and saving it was put on our shoulders, I could go on and on.
I hate fakery at this point so much that I cannot enjoy fictional movies. To suspend disbelief is a struggle. But the other day I went to YouTube and watched a video of all the best cartoons from the 80's. I realized quickly that before my parents became cult members I absolutely loved fantasy and fiction. So many cartoons of magic and wonder, a part of me that they crushed out of existence. I've been told my whole life that I'm too serious, and those fuckers are a big part of it. Not just the cult aspects of my parents, but their joyless denial of the realities of life, their whole lives spent playing roles and not being real, and my realization as a child that make believe lives are bitterly unhappy, all combined to make me dislike even fun whimsy and robbed me of so much joy. I'm trying to get some of that back.
That last sentence struck a nerve, trying to get things back. I'm so sick of being behind in life, trying to catch up in so many aspects because of them. Adulthood has been a deep dive to suicidal depression followed by a nine year constant battle to figure out literally everything I know about life because they taught me virtually nothing.
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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?
by blownaway inmy mother was not the most emotionally stable person.
she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.
its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.
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The question is am I pissed at my parents, and absolutely. I don't necessarily blame them because they were both very broken people that lived a life of denial and found surety in a cult, but I can still be pissed. I am sad for them, but angry for me. I didn't deserve their crap to be heaped upon me. Their righteous indignation and egos can gtfo.
They ultimately destroyed our family. My mom confided in my wife that she doesn't want me to think she's a monster. Too late. I was there to see my dad one last time in hospice, and although in the moment it felt right it didn't shortly thereafter. My mom will have to die without two of her four kids by her side. I honestly feel like on some level she deserves that.
So I hold both compassion and contempt for them, but they chose their crazy and they had many, MANY chances to choose to rise up and do good things and they didn't. They ignored good counsel time and again. They drug us through a cult, through times where we didn't know where food was coming from, through their sick minds and lives, and I am indeed pissed.
Both were broken narcissists. They never truly cared about me or saw me. Even if my mom left the cult at this point I probably wouldn't have much to do with her. I'd help her through the process and if she changed then we could see what that meant but without that I don't see much chance of reconciliation.
I think I am angrier at my mom because she's the one that brought that crap cult into our house. She was the open minded intelligent one that shut all of that down for the easy path of certainty. She sold herself out, and us too.
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Proof of God
by MrDantastic ini'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.
i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.
hmu..
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Screw belief in god, does anyone believe that the OP truly exists? The Dantastic one starts an account, posts, and then disappears. I just think it's funny that he started this and we're four pages in but he's nowhere to be found. I'm not sure I believe that he truly is Dantastic after all. I'm dantappointed in him. -
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Welcoming Our Latest JW Apologist JTrottigy
by pale.emperor ini'd like to take this opportunity to warmly welcome our newest jw apologist jtrottigy.
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he'll likely only be here for a few days like most jw defenders before he runs away when presented with his own doctrine.. so far he's already said some hilarious stuff, like "there's no such thing as nepotism in jehovah's organisation", "confidentiality is paramount to elders" and, my personal favourite "the overlapping generation is so simple to understand".. yh don't think i don't remember you from jwtalk..
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I call bs on that being Trottigy. He is too brainwashed to come to a place like this. He'd be terrified, and he wouldn't use the same name. I think someone is just having some fun, which I'm not opposed to either, but no way that's the same guy from cult talk.
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Shot off a TON of Fireworks for the 4th of July, did anybody else?
by Dunedain ini just finally settled down for the night, as its 1 a.m. in the morning, est, right now.
i finally cleaned up my yard a bit, and a few friends that were over have left.. anyway, i bought about $1,000 dollars worth of fireworks to shoot off for the 4th.
i had sooo much sh%t, i didnt think i was gonna shoot anywhere near as much as i did, but, between me and 2 buddies, we shot off like 85% of it.. literally for an hour and a half we were shooting non stop, sometimes 3 or 4 heavy mortars at once, without a break.
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dubstepped
Read that post and it doesn't sound wasted at all. Good for you man. If you had that much fun, good for you.
I bought some and then realized that where we live sucks for lighting them off. We're on a corner with no back yard and our side yards don't have a good place so we were stuck out front and too many cars drive by. After a close call with morons in a car that stopped just feet from the fireworks that almost got hit with them I had to shut it down. I'm giving my stuff away to someone that wants to have fun farther back in the neighborhood.
Again, good for you. If you have the cash to spend and want to blow it out, do so and have a blast, literally and figuratively.
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The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD
by Still Totally ADD inthis is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.
thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.
we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.
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dubstepped
Welcome F2F!!! So glad to see you chime in. Freedom always comes with a price, but it's worth it. Keep reaching out as you need throughout the process. We all love to help.
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Pioneers, Prayers and Pills
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inlooking back on my two decades as a jehovah’s witness, i’ve come to realize how the constant theme of endurance is playing a detrimental role on the individual's psyche.. jehovah’s witnesses have become far too good at keeping going.
they’re experts at surrendering to the demands of the watchtower, living up to what’s expected of them, and getting on with the priorities that those in power have defined and imposed upon them.
they keep showing up, presenting themselves a dutiful pioneer or ministerial servant.
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dubstepped
There literally was a talk circulated given by Bro. Mack where he talked about how we were all "getting by on pills and prayers brothers, pills and prayers ". Gee, why is that? You just nailed it in the OP. Brilliantly put!