Thanks for posting the pics ChimChim! I am having so much fun watching as others too are getting their trees up!
Posts by Sassy
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Christmas pics!
by ChimChim intoday me and my mom were cleaning, throwing things away that we didn't need because we have a tenancy to keep things that aren't necessary.
anyways we cleaned every nook, accept we didnt do the dishes and washed the counters.
but we finished the living room, switched things around because there was absolutly no room for the tree, but now there is.
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Question from a non-member about birthdays.
by OldBen ini'm curious why jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate birthdays.
can anyone offer any help?
thanks in advance.
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Sassy
But of course JWs celebrate anniversaries.
exactly. Whenever someone would ask about why we don't celebrate B days, I would try to explain as Mulan listed about the bad things happening during the only times B days were brought up in the bible and of course then say that it was giving importance to 'self'... then they would say, but you celebrate anniversaries right? in many ways how is that so much different?
Well a week from today is my Bday.. It will be the first one I ever celebrate..
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Opinions Please....Engagement Timing
by Stacy Smith ini've been seeing a very nice guy for two months now, every day, almost every minute.
as you know it can become very obvious when a guy is about to pop the question.. i have been very honest with him about when i'd be willing to marry, which is to say not until i graduate from college which is still a 1 1/2 years away, of course i hear things like "well a couple can wait but be commited right"?.
anyway i've bounced this off of my friends and have several opinions already but i thought i'd ask it here.. how long would you date someone before you considered accepting an engagement ring?
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Sassy
You need to do what feels right for you. You already said you have been clear about your intentions of not wanting to marry until after college. If he asks now, remind him of that. It is true that you can be engaged a long time, but unless you are sure of being ready for a long engagement beginning now, then you need to trust your instincts and do what is right for you. If you don't feel ready, remind him of your love, but also that you don't want to move so fast. Tell him your not ready yet to take it to a new level. Since you brought up the subject, my guess is your are not. Whatever you do, I hope it brings you happiness either way.
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What is the Purpose of this Site - My personal opinion?
by jst2laws ini was a little surprised to learn that many people do not really understand the purpose of jwd.
many are focused on freedom of speech and the fact that this is a "discussion" board.
to some this does seem to go against the heavy moderating the board has seen lately, feeling that discussion is suppressed, some going so far as to suggest that mind control is subtly involved here as in the organization.
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Sassy
When I decided to stop being a JW, SimpleSally told me how supportive the people have been on this site and recommended I join up. I was a little hesitant at first not sure how welcomed I would be so was a bit more quiet at first (not my usual nature). But she was right about the people here. And this site is theraputic for those having left the JW life. True we could go to a therapist but unless they are an ex JW, there are some things you just can't relate and feel like you are understood. And sometimes we know the answers any way, but to have a friend who can say, I know, I was there. You can see how far they have come and feel strength to see you can get there too or you can get there together.
While it is true, there is an amount of rebellion one can feel after leaving the JWs and since it can be new terrritory, we might not be sure how to behave. But the fact of the matter is, just because we aren't JWs any more, doesn't mean we have to become people who have no conscience or care for other peoples feelings. Then does that make us better people for having left the religion? Actually it gives them reason to think they are right to stay a JW, because look how angry this person or that became. We're all angry. I'm angry that I lost so much all those years, but that doesn't make it right for me to not care about how I behave in front of others.
This site is like visiting someone's home, Simon and Angharad's home. How would we feel if people came into our home and argued to the point of offending other guests we have invited. Not very good if we are decent human beings. It is no different here. The hours they put in to maintain this home, to arrange for others to be on "household duty" of keeping things orderly, we need to respect and appreciate.
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I wonder why?
by copsec insomething i have always wondered when reading postings on various ex-jw sites is why some of us (myself included-who was a jw for 29 years) could care less about jw's or the fact i got kicked out.
the only reason i even come to these sites if it is nice to make fun of jw's along with others who get the joke.
and yet there are those of you who harp on the fact that people shun you, etc.
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Sassy
I really don't think it will ever give me pleasure to make fun of JWs. I guess because I was one and so who am I to fault them. Actually I feel sorry for them. I have come here because only an exJW can relate to some things you go through so it has been theraputic to be here.
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Please share your Xmas craft ideas with me
by Eyebrow2 inhello everyyone!.
this the first christmas that my husband and i actually have time to do stuff with our kids before christmas.
i hope to help them make some ornaments for our tree, and hopefully make a few to send up to their grandparents for their tree.
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Sassy
ohh there are some good ideas in here!! I wish we had pictures...
I bought plain globe ornaments, all colors or whichever color you want, and use glue glitter (I buy it at Michael's) to write all the names of the family, one on each ornament.
My grandmother did that. She had an ornament with a glitter name for all the grandchildren. I used to go next door and just look at my name on her tree. Mom never asked her not to have our names there. In a way it was something really special all those years no one could take away. When Grandma died, I asked my dad what happened to her ornaments. I know he thought it was odd for me (a JW) asking.. he said they probably threw them away.. I was kind of sad. Deep inside I wanted it to save as a memory.
This year since I have no grandchildren and my children are grown, since the little girl in my life is SimpleSally's little girl, I want to make one with her name on it.. Then have Sally bring her over and see her name up there on my tree.
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Christmas "Rules" aka traditions
by simplesally inmulan said:dave had celebrated christmas until he was 15 so informed me we had to play christmas music while decorating the tree.
it definitely changed the atmosphere.
i will post photos when they are developed.. .
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Sassy
I am trying to think if I can remember any traditions my dad's family had who were not witnesses. Before my grandma died, they all got together on Xmas eve. All my aunts and uncles and cousins would come. I guess they did it Xmas eve so Xmas day could be used to just be home with your own family or spend with the other spouses family. Sadly what I remember most about Xmas time tradition was my dad getting drunk every year. He hated that mom and us kids didn't celebrate so he always drank heavy around the holidays.
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What have you replaced religion with?
by logansrun in(obviously this question is for those who are non-religious in any conventional sense).
what have you replaced religion with in your life?
(by that i mean the religious life with it's rituals, worship and group identity) what is your raison d'etre?
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Sassy
I haven't really replaced it with anything. Part of me knows I should but it seems there is so much hypocracy in all religions so I don't feel I have any where else to go either. Right now I am appreciating the time to have to myself that used to be for meetings and service.
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Christmas Is Really On Its Way!
by Stephanus injust threw out my first christmas beetle of the season!
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Sassy
I have never heard of a Christmas beetle. Is that their only name?
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marriage = jw + jw
by HapEMelissa indoes the marriage of an active jw have to be to another active and practicing jw?
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Sassy
they sure put the pressure on you to obey in the "LITTLE THINGS" and include marrying "only in the Lord" as one of those things. When someone doesn't obey in that way, they can receive a good shunning/or marking for doing things their way, rather than "Jehovah's" way i.e. JW's way.