Police shoot suspect....................er why? (page 24)

ISP

Transcript of press conference with Sir Ian Blair and Andy Hayman

This is a transcript of today's press conference with Sir Ian Blair and Andy Hayman.

Commissioner:
As you are aware there is a lot of police activity going on today in relation to the underground and bus incidents of yesterday. This is a very, very fast moving investigation.

Andy Hayman is going to make an appeal for new information. I have a few points that I would like to make to begin with. As I've said before, this is the greatest operational challenge ever faced by the Metropolitan Police Service. The MPS and its sister services are doing a magnificent job, but officers are facing previously unknown threats and great danger.

We need the understanding of all communities, and the co-operation of all communities, and we need calm. We know that there are rumours sweeping London, and I really do appeal for people to listen to the facts as they emerge. We remain resolute, and will work tirelessly, and imaginatively with every community in London to solve this crime. The most important message we have other than this appeal is that this operation is targeted against criminals. It is not targeted against any community, or any section of the community. There are hundreds of police officers working across London on these inquiries and the anti-terrorist teams are working literally around the clock and there probably won't be a let-up in that for some considerable time.

I can say as part of operations linked to yesterday's incidents, Met police officers have shot a man inside Stockwell Underground Station at approximately 10am this morning. London Ambulance Service and the air ambulance both attended and the man was pronounced dead at the scene. I understand Stockwell tube station remains closed.

The information I have available if that this shooting is directly linked to the ongoing and expanding anti-terrorist operation. Any death is deeply regrettable. I understand the man was challenged and refused to obey. I can't go any further than that at this stage, and I am now going to hand over to Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/press_ianblair.html

searchfothetruth

Notice how the Railings that are behind the guy in the white hat are actually over his left arm.

Could this be a fake picture?

melmoth

ISP: Thank you for the transcript. That is exactly what I was talking about.
Not to pick on the person who posted this originally, but here's what I responded to:
"You can't get away from the fact that initially the anouncement was that they had killed one of the 4 bombers .... When they find out he was not one of the bombers they said he was directly connected to the bombings."
And the actual statement was: "The information I have available if that this shooting is directly linked to the ongoing and expanding anti-terrorist operation."
So in other words, the commissioner said no such thing. Someone might well have inferred from it that they were claiming to have shot someone involved or connected, but he didn't. I recall the first statement about the victim was to identify him correctly, once they had, the following day.
There is enough to challenge and question about how the police acted, and plan to act, without twisting the facts up - even inadvertently.

stevenyc

Notice how the Railings that are behind the guy in the white hat are actually over his left arm.

Your seeing an optical illusion. The resolution quality of the image is bad. What your seeing is pixel merge. I have to deal with this on an almost daily basis. It becuase there is too much information for the image capture device to handle. Ever seen a 70's news reader with a bad tie? And, the tie gets those wavy patterns over it on your TV. Its a similar phenomenon

steve

PS Why is it when ever I think of the word phenomenon, I just have to say DOoo DOooo DO DO DOoo, like the muppet show?

searchfothetruth

Pixel merge,

Sounds like a 'Magic Railing' theory to me.

lol

But you could be right

ISP

Melmoth

And the actual statement was: "The information I have available if that this shooting is directly linked to the ongoing and expanding anti-terrorist operation."

But initially they had this guy down as a suicide bomber.........thats why he was executed.........later he was relegated to being directly linked.........then to nothing at all.

ISP

searchfothetruth

Seriously for a minute.

Don't you think it's getting a bit scary that they don't even bother with a decent cover-up these days?

kgfreeperson

I understand your outrage, Simon, but I gotta say, I've been kind of impressed with the reporting I'm getting, at any rate. I think you are getting quicker and better information than we would if this had happened here. We would have had at least several days of character assassination of the victim first.

Someone said something about the "media" scaring everybody to death about terrorism. In the US, it is only the media insomuch as they are reporting what the administration is saying (I'm talking about what I consider the "real" media--not the 24/7 editorializing about why Bush is right and everybody is wrong media.)

bisous

Search:

When I examine the picture, it appears to me that the man's arm is bent upward at the elbow, thus you are seeing the rail below.

melmoth

ISP: "initially they had this guy down as a suicide bomber"
I'm not claiming they didn't. I'm just saying I haven't seen that anywhere, and I read a lot about the incident at the time (being a former London resident, I was interested), and have searched again today and not found any such official statement. I remember thinking it odd that so little was said Friday, and actually went looking through alternative news sources at the time to see what I could learn.

ISP: "later he was relegated to being directly linked"
No, the shooting was directly linked to the operation, not the person shot - unless you're referring so something other than the transcript you kindly located. That is, it was not police on patrol shooting a random pedestrian - but rather ones conducting surveillance, who followed someone who emerged, unfortunately, from the building being watched.

Police shoot suspect....................er why?

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