Ballistic:
I was going for the JWD "Sick B*st*rd Award", a la RIchie's thread, but I see there's another contender
Police shoot suspect....................er why?
by ISP 299 Replies latest members politics
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LittleToe
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Simon
Som from the people who broadcast the passport of a live and unrelated person being a suicide bomber and who then shot an innocent man in the head 7 times, they have a photo of a suspect who of course may (or may not) have something to do with anything.
It would be comical if it all wasn't so tragic.
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searchfothetruth
Hi folks,
Just had to comment on this thread as the evidence in this case seems overwhelmingly obvious that the police got it completely wrong, tailing an innocent man who spotted he was being followed and did what most of us would do, he ran.
As far as i'm aware, a policeman can only open fire if he is in danger or another member of the public is in danger.
Eye-witnesses said that he was pushed to the ground and the shot in the back of the head.
That's an execution!
The fact that the Israeli's have been teaching the armed police is another piece of the puzzle.
If anyone tries to justify the actions of teh police in this matter need to be careful, if the police use an illegal 'shoot-to-kioll' policy, then we end up living in a police state, which these London bombing helped to bring in draconian legislation as they were meant to.
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talesin
I've been reading this thread since it started. On the day of the shooting (was it only yesterday, or the day before?), I saw the eyewitness on camera twice, telling his story ,,,
He seemed to be in shock. He saw plain clothes police chase a man down, and the man tripped. They caught him, one held him down, and one executed him. His face said it all. The horror of what had happened in his city, he couldn't believe it.
What is UNCLEAR about this eyewitness testimony? It was shown on the Canadian news directly after the event ..._____ I_saw_the_man_speak_____
He did not 'come out of the woodwork',,, nor was it a reporter's condensation of events ,,, it was a DIRECT EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT, as he was sitting in the back of a police vehicle, all shaken up.
We must question authority .. it is the citizens' duty.
Perhaps I should just sit here, and pretend I'm at the Kingdumb Hall like a good little robot, and nod me 'ead when I'm told something is 'for my own good'.
Not gonna happen, peeps!
tal
*exercises her freedom to question authority* class
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ISP
Perhaps I should just sit here, and pretend I'm at the Kingdumb Hall like a good little robot, and nod me 'ead when I'm told something is 'for my own good'.
WTG! I have wondered how some escaped the borg with their level of critical thinking if this thread is anything to go by!
Best
ISP
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LittleToe
Just wait until it's used as a further excuse for identity cards...
Big Brother IS watching you!
I'm not so worried about the Fembots as the Sheepbots - scary biscuits!!!
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searchfothetruth
Did you notice the agenda coming out almost instantly.
"I.D. cards could have prevented the bombings" (Well it didn't help Madrid did it?)
The shooting of this guy is a classic example of what happens when the police extend the powers given to them by the current law.
We don't need any more laws, there are adequate laws in place, the government just need to exercise them properly without a British version of the Patriot Act being used to take even more of our freedoms away.
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ISP
It should help Bush get his Patriot Act renewed anyway!
ISP
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melmoth
ISP: "Its there Melmoth...you can research for your self!"
I've just spent 20 minutes searching BBC online and come up empty except for a statement that the shooting was "directly linked" to the bombing investigation. Which in a sense it was, if erroneously so.
I'm not staking out a position here, I'm just always on the lookout for things people infer at the time and later insist were stated - because it happens all the time. -
ISP
Bush sees London attacks as reason for Patriot Act
By Bill Sammonand Audrey Hudson
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 21, 2005
President Bush yesterday invoked the terrorist attacks in London as a compelling reason for Congress to renew the USA Patriot Act and for local governments to beef up security on mass-transit systems.
"As we saw in London, the terrorists are still active and they are still plotting to take innocent life," Mr. Bush told law-enforcement officers in Baltimore. "So my message to the Congress is clear: This is no time to let our guard down, and no time to roll back good laws."
It was the first time the president cited the July 7 London attacks, which killed at least 56 persons in the British capital's subway and bus systems, to bolster support for renewal of the Patriot Act. The U.S. House is scheduled to vote on the measure this week.
"The Patriot Act is expected to expire, but the terrorist threats will not expire," he said. "I expect, and the American people expect, the United States Congress and the United States Senate to renew the Patriot Act."
The London attacks also have prompted a re-evaluation of mass-transit security by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.
"He took a look at the situation and said, 'Let's enhance our security and infrastructure points,'?" Mr. Bush said. "We're widening the use of explosive detection teams and nearly doubling the number of rail security inspectors."
The president also defended Mr. Chertoff's assertion to the Associated Press last week that local communities are responsible for protecting transit systems. City officials in San Francisco and Chicago professed shock that the federal government was not assuming that responsibility.
"Those who are going to be responsible for responding to an attack are at the local level," Mr. Bush said. "I think that makes sense to say to a mayor, 'If you've got a problem with your mass transit, here's a grant, and if you feel that's the best use of the money, use it there.'?"
Although the federal government has provided $14 billion since September 11 to train and equip local emergency workers to respond to terrorist attacks, city leaders and some members of Congress insist that job should be handled at the federal level.
"Michael Chertoff is a very smart guy, but I couldn't disagree more," said New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.
Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, demanded that Mr. Chertoff apologize for putting the onus on local communities.
Mr. Chertoff said he does not want to load the nation's buses and trains with federal police. He emphasized that the federal government is moving to a risk-based management approach to focus limited federal dollars on the biggest targets.http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050720-102536-4094r.htm
ISP