Great Tribulation and Trump (page 16)

schnell

Given your method, or Van's, what is the population in the lifetime of Peleg?

Van, your source and I got almost identical results. Isn't that exciting! With a slight of the hand they purport to show that the 7.1 billion is a result. It is not. It is a known variable. All they did was to solve for the yearly growth rate k knowing to start off with 7.1 billion and going back to 8 people (they used 6) in 4500 years and got < 5 percent k average and work backwards as schnell points out and then show the 7.1 billion. Albeit it has been shown mathematically that 6 people can increase exponentially to the population we have today. And that is the point. It is not a miraculous growth.

Fisherman

So again Fisherman, how often do you pray that your flight will not be in winter or on a Sabbath? What mountains around Judaea are you planning to run to. Do you bring an extra Jacket with you when you do roof work?

The mountain I have always fled to is the most high: Psalms 11:1, 18:2, 62:7, 71:1-3, 91:9, 94:22, 144:2

For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. .....until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. (Luke 17:30) 30 It will be the same on that day when the Son of man is revealed.

Van, I do not see how parallels ('just as in the days of 70') do not apply in a modern day fulfillment of 70. parousia is also a parallel of of the flood as Jesus points out similarities above. That is how I see it and thanks for your post. I understand your view.

Village Idiot

I can’t believe this thread has ~~153~~ 154 replies. Die! Just die!

Vanderhoven7

Fisherman,

The parallel is very limited. Jesus' parousia will come as a surprise on an expecting earth just as it did in Noah's day. People will be going about their business, working in fields, marrying etc.

36. BUT OF THAT DAY AND HOUR KNOWETH NO MAN,
NO, NOT THE ANGELS OF HEAVEN, BUT MY FATHER
ONLY.

I believe that this verse and "THAT DAY" signal a change in topic
to the second coming (parousia) of Christ. Mt.7: 20-22 Mt.11:22 Jn.5:25,29

Jesus has already explained what would happen to His own generation.

Now He contrasts that which would relate to His second coming (parousia)

or presence on earth. Notice the contrasts:

Matt 24:1-35 ...............................................................Matt 24: 36 - end
__________ ...............................................................__________________

Local, Jerusalem,Judea,Temple ................................Worldwide: Lu.21:35

Abnormal Times: calamities .......................................Normal Times: Marrying etc.

Specific signs precede ...............................................No Signs Given

Timing Anticipated Lu.24:33 .......................................Anticipation Impossible 24:44

These Days Mt.24:22 ..................................................That Day Mt.24:36
Saints to flee ................................................................No Running; Saints taken

37. BUT AS THE DAYS OF NOE WERE, SO SHALL ALSO
THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE.

38. FOR AS IN THE DAYS THAT WERE BEFORE THE
FLOOD THEY WERE EATING AND DRINKING,
MARRYING AND GIVING IN MARRIAGE, UNTIL THE DAY
NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK,

39. AND KNEW NOT UNTIL THE FLOOD CAME, AND
TOOK THEM ALL AWAY; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING
OF THE SON OF MAN BE.

40. THEN SHALL TWO BE IN THE FIELD; THE ONE SHALL
BE TAKEN, AND THE OTHER LEFT.

41. TWO WOMEN SHALL BE GRINDING AT THE MILL;
THE ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, AND THE OTHER LEFT.
Elaboration - Lu. 17:20 -

42. WATCH THEREFORE: FOR YE KNOW NOT WHAT
HOUR YOUR LORD DOTH COME.

43. BUT KNOW THIS, THAT IF THE GOODMAN OF THE
HOUSE HAD KNOWN IN WHATWATCH THE THEIF
WOULD COME, HE WOULD HAVE WATCHED, AND
WOULD NOT HAVE SUFFERED HIS HOUSE TO BE
BROKEN UP.

44. THEREFORE BE YE ALSO READY: FOR IN SUCH AN
HOUR AS YE THINK NOT THE SON OF MAN COMETH.
Lu.12:42-48

Fisherman

Sorry for the double post. Internet problem.

Vidiot

Fisherman - "Sorry for the double post. Internet problem."

You sure it wasn't the Holy Spirit? :smirk:

Fisherman

You sure it wasn't the Holy Spirit?

Decades ago when I studied Calculus ( and I figured that I would never use that stuff) by pure chance and although not being the sharpest tool in the shed, I discovered a pattern, a short cut in solving a particular kind of problem; I remember I showed my findings to the good professor, and he was very excited about it, and put it to the test, and it failed -it was only a coincidence, but he commended me for having such a sharp eye and spotting it while everybody else overlooked it.

Those enlightened look for evidence coming from God and find it.

With JW, it is not about the evidence -it is about the promise. If an angel came down, or if the heavens opened and JW saw Isaiah's vision,or any remarkable evidence imaginable, it would not help JW faith one bit -true it would be comforting and reassuring if facing death or pain and difficult times -but to JW it aint about evidence, it is about when will relief come -and that requires faith, not evidence from God.

prologos

Trump's triumph, probably short lived, is about the great tribulation of a language group that stretches from Poland to San Fransisco, , Sidney and Wellington, aka seventh king, now, all that would be meaningful only if there really was a basis to the walking, talking snake in the tale.

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