The Great Crowd!

by A Believer 183 Replies latest jw experiences

  • honest

    Noah's ark 😂😂😂😂 oh good lord can't believe people actually believe this story. Noah went to Australia, the Americas, south pacific Islands to preach that they will die of they don't travel to the middle east and get on his ark! How did he build that ark? Could of it possible hold millions of people, how did the kangaroos and coyotes get on it. What happened to all that methane gas? 😂😂😂 you do realise that indigenous people existed pre Noah's ark. Apparently they were killed as well?

  • wizzstick

    A Believer - what are you struggling with?

    This is very, very simple.

    The great crowd of Rev 7:15 are in naos, which is in heaven.

    They are not on earth.

    Is English a second language to you? None of your replies seem to connect to what Sanchy and I am saying to you...

  • wizzstick

    Even the Watchtower has to admit that naos means the divine habitation.

    Rev 7:15 footnote

    Divine (meaning God) habitation (where he lives).

    Do you think God will live on earth?

  • sir82

    None of your replies seem to connect to what Sanchy and I am saying to you...

    LOL, you noticed that too.

    I'm not doing much better, all I get is "read the article" even after explaining that I already read it.

  • JWdaughter

    No matter what you are reading or how you phrase these things, there is one incontrovertible fact that even the WT agrees with NO ONE would come up with the WT teachings by simply reading scripture. Believer or unbeliever, there is no way that anyone would have come up with the scenario that the WT has proposed (any of them) based on the Bible. The official and unofficial WT teachings and beliefs are unsupported by scripture, whether you believe the scripture or not. The anticipated tribulation as the WT is portraying it and the 1000 years. . . and whatever the hell they claim lies beyond it. Its a whole lot of fantasy mixed with conveniently out of context proof texts. ...

    And, I won't lie. The fantasy has some initial appeal. Just don't think about it any deeper than your little fingernail because the entire thing starts looking kind of whacked, illogical and ultimately ugly. If you haven't been enjoying the WT artwork, you should start paying more attention to the end time themed ones, as well as the new system ones. Your fantasy is just that. A fantasy. But after a while, it starts seeming more like a surreal, dystopian nightmare.

  • wizzstick
    But after a while, it starts seeming more like a surreal, dystopian nightmare.

    Rather like all religious beliefs.

  • A Believer
    A Believer

    Naos means temple. Jehovah can have a temple on earth.

  • A Believer
    A Believer

    Rev 21 talks about Heaven

    15 Now the one who was speaking with me was holding a golden reed as a measure in order to measure the city and its gates and its wall.

    22 I did not see a temple in it, for Jehovah* God the Almighty+ is its temple, also the Lamb is.

  • FedUpJW
    I haven't read the whole book but I thing Jehovah is showing someone what will happen and he is telling the account.

    Okay, I'll bite. A believer you quote scripture, yet you are dead wrong! Go back and read with some measure of intelligence these words in Revelation 1: 1, "A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place."

    God may have given this to Jesus, but it was JESUS who gave it to an angel, who gave it to John. More likely John just got a hold of some real potent poppy seed though.

  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    What we have here could very well be an OVERLAPPING GREAT CROWD!

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