The Great Crowd!

by A Believer 183 Replies latest jw experiences

  • A Believer
    A Believer

    Who are they?

    4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000,+ sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel:+5 Out of the tribe of Judah 12,000 sealed; out of the tribe of Reuʹben 12,000; out of the tribe of Gad 12,000; 6 out of the tribe of Ashʹer 12,000; out of the tribe of Naphʹta·li 12,000; out of the tribe of Ma·nasʹseh+ 12,000; 7 out of the tribe of Simʹe·on 12,000; out of the tribe of Leʹvi 12,000;out of the tribe of Isʹsa·char 12,000; 8 out of the tribe of Zebʹu·lun 12,000; out of the tribe of Joseph 12,000; out of the tribe of Benjamin 12,000 sealed.


    Notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from Israel.

    9 After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+

    This great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from EVERY nation! Not just Israel!

    9 “You must pray, then, this way:+“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name+ be sanctified.*+ 10 Let your Kingdom+ come. Let your will+ take place, as in heaven, also on earth.


    How great our God Jehovah is!

  • sir82
    sir82

    Who are the great crowd? The Bible tells you:

    Revelation 19:1 (RNWT): After this I heard what seemed to be a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven. They said: “Praise Jah!

    See? Just like the Bible says! The "Great Crowd" are in heaven!

    What's that? That's not what the Watchtower teaches?

    Hummm...well, I guess you have to decide which you trust more: The Bible or the Watchtower.

  • A Believer
    A Believer

    You went back a whole chapter. That is neither the 144000 or the great crowd of the tribulation.

    The Bible uses the term "great crowd" twenty-four times, referring to different "crowds" or "multitudes". It is silly to pretend that every crowd in the Bible is the same as every other crowd in the Bible. Mentioning that Revelation 19:1 mentions a great crowd in heaven is no more significant than Matthew 26:47 mentioning a great crowd with swords and clubs.

    Of course, Jehovah's Witnesses have always recognized that the term "great crowd" is used uniquely at Revelation 7:9 in that there that particular "great crowd" describes the group of humans who survive the "great tribulation" to live forever on earth.
    .. ..(Revelation 7:9-11,13,14) Look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes...11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures... 13 These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?...These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation [compare Matt 24:3,21]

  • A Believer
    A Believer

    Thier are different great crowds in the Bible. The one mentioned in Rev 9 are the ones who come out of the Tribulation.

  • btlc
    btlc

    9 After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number,

    yet, they are numbered each year...

  • honest
    honest

    The 144,000 from the tribes of Israel, virgin men......... Looks like you skipped that part and also the part where the great crowd is seen in heaven.. But hey thats not what watchtower teaches so you can't agree with the Bible.

    No Jehovah is not great............

    Santa is greater 😄

  • undercover
    undercover

    Raining or snowing in your area today, is it? But ya gotta get those pioneer hours in anyway, right?

  • A Believer
    A Believer

    Btlc Read.

    Honest Read.

    Undercover Whatever it takes.

  • A Believer
    A Believer

    Btlc the one Jehovah let see this prophecy couldn't number them. No one knows exactly how many will be there that day. Even Jehovah doesn't look into the future, everyone has free will.

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    Even Jehovah doesn't look into the future

    is that current watchtower teachings--or your own idea?

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