Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

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  • jp1692

    ScenicViewer: This is definitely off topic, but it struck me just how narcissistic members of the GB are. It all fits, especially the last remark about having an exaggerated sense of superiority.

    Actually, I don't think it's off topic at all.

    Many people leave the organization known as Jehovah's Witnesses (or any other cult for that matter), and they do so for a variety of reasons.

    But most don't do the hard work to eliminate the cult-indoctrinated negative personality traits which they acquired as a part of their association with the cult.

    Of course many people have numerous negative personality traits without ever being part of a formal cult, but the whole cult experience can both create personality defects that were not native in the individual as well as magnify those that were.

    It takes both time and hard work to recover from being in an abusive relationship of any kind.

    It's telling that Evan's book title focuses on "escaping" from the religion and not recovering from it. Of course the only barriers to leaving are psychological, but those "bars" can be as effective as the physical kind until a person learns to recognize them for what they are. Once we do, then the recovery can begin.

  • James Brown
    James Brown

    PT Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute.

    This kind of reminds me of Mark Twain and Tom Sawyer charging to paint the fence.

    I have played music professionally all my life. There are places that will charge you hundreds of dollars to bring your friends drink their drinks and listen to you and your band play your music.

    I always played at places that paid me hundreds of dollars gave me free drinks and supplied their own cliental.

  • OrphanCrow
    For $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of How to Escape From Jehovah's Witnesses. The text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

    So let me get this straight

    A person would write a one page story of "escaping an abusive belief system"

    Yup, that should do it - one page will encapsulate that. Of course. 300 words on "how I escaped from a cult"

    Sure. That sounds like a "back from school holidays" writing assignment

    Then, they would send their one page story (along with 150 dollars) to somebody who will re-write that story. The person who re-writes that story will include one quote from the original one page story

    Making noise and more noise

    Noisy noisy noisy

  • ScenicViewer

    I'm curious about the last remark in the OP.

    (The author reserves the right to issue a refund for this perk if the story is not a good fit for the book.)

    He reserves the right to issue a refund if the story isn't used? Is this a left handed way of saying that he reserves the right to keep the money if the story isn't used?

  • _Morpheus

    No, he will issue a refund if he dosent use your story.

    *edited to add- dosent make it less slimy

  • JRK

    I know of a really good book written about how to fade from the religion. It was written by a friend of mine from Saint Louis. It is available free from Barbara Anderson's website.


  • wannaexit

    I got a bad taste in my mouth a few years ago , when Cedars was asking for funding for his book. Everyone has a right be an activist, but he is going a little too far. He's an opportunist, trying to make a buck. Lost respect for him a long time ago.

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    Jehovah’s Witnesses have to be the biggest losers around. First they fall for Kingdom Hall building projects that are not really necessary and are sold off with profits sent directly to HQ. They give, give and give to unspecified “Worldwide Work” and the methods of coercion get fairly creative.

    Alas, when it is time to leave after years of being abused, when they just can’t go on anymore... and after paying the ultimate price of losing life-long family and friends... They are informed of another cause, this time to bring JWs out of the religion to hasten it’s demise. Wow! How can I make this so?

    Worry not, for I am writing a for-profit book that I am crowdfunding to the tune of thousands of dollars. I am going to write about “Escaping Jehovah’s Witnesses”, just like you just did in real time! Wait, before you leave, did you notice how you can help besides paying more for an autographed book about something you already accomplished? Pay me at the discounted rate of $150, and I will do you the honour of accepting your 300 word submission of your escape story! I will then re-write it and quote directly from what you just sent me! I will also arrange for a photograph to be taken in real life of you and myself, Lloyd Evans.

    And he has the nerve to feed you the narrative that you are helping JWs together when all you are doing is helping a fat man to his next meal.

    This is a load of horse shit.

  • Diogenesister
    I know their has been a lot of controversy about Lloyd Evans /John Cedars over the years and I have been on the fence making a judgement about him ,however I think this post by himself LE/JC has tipped the scales.

    Smiddy I'm with you. I enjoy Lloyd's JWbroadcast rebuttals, and I do think there has been a touch of envy in the attitudes of some, particularly other YouTuber's. There has also been some rarther nasty insinuations about Lloyd being rarther predatory toward young women. This from so-called " Christian" exjws, and Lloyd has, quite rightly in my opinion, put a lot of their spite down to his atheism.

    I also 'get' that he is trying to make a living in the competitive area of journalism, with a specialist subject with very limited appeal. Doesn't help that he lives in a country where I imagine the job market is very limited. I get all that.

    But really. Is this a competition - the most heartrending story gets to pay you the honour of having their story printed as an afterthought, in a book with Lloyds name emblazoned on the front cover. And this purports to help people like them? Really?

    Nothing wrong with being paid for your work but if you want to be a professional be a professional - ghost write, put the persons name on the cover and share the profits.And don't take advantage of The hurt and unheard.

  • sparrowdown

    I don't get it is he just fishing for ideas for this book or the next one?

    Does he then get to keep all the stories and can then use them or parts of them as he sees fit now or later?

    I'm not really sure what a person's rights are once they hand over their story willingly like that.

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