I am so angry I am sick to my stomach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Ravyn 88 Replies latest jw friends

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  freein89

  Rayvn,

  I don't know how to work the quote thingy, but you said "I felt like my life was being threatened" I feel that you had a legitimate reaction. I think threatening to kill was probably not a good idea, but when you explain it they way you did in the above, I can understand how you felt. The Witnesses have such power, I do not think you gave them your power, they just came and took it. That is just so awful. I have felt the same 20,000 volts up my spine. But now that the emotional dam has broken it will most likely be easier to manage future encounters. The worst is over-yes? BE SAFE AND STRONG.

  Deb
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  zev

  you may want to visit this site and get yourself on the wt do not call list.

  http://www.do-not-call.org
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  Cicatrix

  {{{{Ravyn}}}}

  I hear what you're feeling. The elder that started a witch hunt against me- who presided over the trial by which it was determined that my not being a submissive enough wife was the cause of my husband hitting me, and who, I suspect, due to some delicately placed questions, has recently told unbelieving family members of his who my family is friends with, about the abuse (they, fortunately,are not under the dub spell to believe everything that comes out of the mouth of an elder as being gospel. In fact, they seem to have made it a point to socialize with us even more)-now arrives at my door on a regular basis to peddle his magazines and schmuck it up with the unbaptised members of my household.He must case the place first, because he always comes when I'm not home. This guy wouldn't give my family members so much as the time of day before I left, even when I asked that someone take my kids under their "spiritual wing"-GAG GAG. I can't believe I ever thought that way!!!

  The kids just stare at him dumbly, then throw the offers in the trash. One less set of magazines out there to screw with anyone else's heads. And they do a great job of educating their friends at school about what really goes on behind the tower, lol.I believe they refer to dubs as Shirt Nazis.

  There are days when I'd like to shoot Sanctimonious Elder, too. But he isn't worth spending the rest of my life in prison over. I just put all that venom into writing stories starring him as the evil protagonist. My writing teachers at school just love those stories, and it gives me such satisfaction to know that all that venom is being put to good use-hehe.

  In the meantime, thanks for reminding me about pioneer zealotry. I was contacted by an old Jw friend who doesn't have a clue I disassociated myself. She wrote this nice chatty letter saying that she just took up the full time pioneer work again. Your experience reminded me what she used to be like at the doors. I am so NOT going to write her, lol.Although I may do what one poster suggested and send her a Ouija board:)
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  czarofmischief

  I don't think anyone would get into trouble, especially in the South, for threatening a trespasser who won't leave after clear admonitions from the landowner to do so.

  Free speech still means something, like "Get off my property, suh, or I will be fawced to resort to vah-lense..."

  In Texas it's still technically legal to kill someone that "needs killing." What that means, I don't know, and it probably wouldn't stand up in court in our weak-kneed bitch-factory of an era, but it's still a comfort.

  It's just talk. You can say almost anything, even stupid stuff.

  I also wanted to say that maybe the reason she wouldn't leave is cause she's looking for a way out and wanted to talk to you because maybe you could apostatize her. Just give her CoC and watch her squirm and hide it like it's hardcore porn.

  Besides, guns are a powerful tool, and if you haven't conquered your mind completely, they will possess YOU.

  CZAR
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  rockon

  At first I was shocked at the violence. Then I got to thinking of all the ones (jws) who have hurt me or my family in some way over the years. Jackie Winner (I hope her teeth and hair fall out) who called my daughter every name in the book including whore. Vern Gleason who I hope dies soon. I will dance on his grave. I have a lot of anger for a lot of elders over the years. Very few, count on one hand, who were nice. My husband and I never kissed elder butt. We were always a thorn in their side. So, I can understand your anger.

  Rockon
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  avengers

  I remember the last time they visited at my door. After they left I was shaking so bad I couldn't even hold a glass of water.
  That never happened to me before. I just can't handle the way they talk as if you're a piece of shit. Every logic they put down with their Jehovah garbage. Next time I will not talk to them. I think I had an anxiety attack. I shook for more than an hour.
  These guys better leave after I ask them the first time.
  Anyway you're not alone in this. Not if that means anything though.

  23,702 people can't be lying

  www.silentlambs.org
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  iiz2cool

  Hmmmm, she insisted on conversing with you even after you told her you were an apostate? You could contact the local elders with a description of her and the events. She might find herself in front of a JC herself!

  I understand how angry this makes you though. Since I DA'd myself and warned the elders in writing that attempts to contact me would result in calls to police, they've stayed away, but continue to question my wife about my personal activities. It's about enough to make me lose it, but I think that threats could cause more legal problems than they're worth.

  Maybe we should all start a campaign of our own, knocking on witness doors and offering copies of Crisis of Conscience, on a donation basis of course. It may be worth the investment.

  Walter
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  Ravyn

  beautiful Avengers.

  well I am sorry I was pushed into feeling the violence. It is not pleasant. But I can't say I am sorry I said it. I am glad some of the Newbies around here are mature enough to understand that 'there by the grace of god go'....any one of us! I guess Bradley's(and others') fear that we mean and nasty posters full of hate don't scare off the delicate new ones is unfounded in this case.

  And Czar, yes I understand the gun thingy, which is why I do not have one in the house now. My husband has been around guns his whole life, and he knows you don't even point a gun that you do not intend to shoot, and you don't shoot unless you are prepared to kill. I never as a JW even touched a gun until I met Lee and he had(among others) a 9mm Beretta. He and his dad took me to the range and showed me how to shoot it. He let me shoot 7 rounds, and they were all within about 2 inches right thru the center of the head silhouette. He thought it was a fluke until he showed me how to shoot the shotgun and the rifle. I did not miss anything I aimed at. I think I have an advantage becoz due to a birth injury I have learned to compensate for lack of peripheral on one side and 3D vision. So I can basically 'dead-eye' almost anything and judge the distanced based on other factors rather than just dimensional sight. He jokes about us moving back to Idaho and becoming a pro-husband/wife sniper team. I also have the patience and calm. Usually. His dad gave me this big long speech about how when he was in the war and he made his first human kill and how he threw up and each time it got easier...well frankly I don't think that would be a problem for me. I was an EMT in Los Angeles in the 80's and I know what gunshot wounds and such look like and I have seen human death. OK maybe causing human death would be different, but I still don't think so. The anxiety attack was a new one for me tho, makes me more determined to stay away from guns until I can get some things worked out.

  thanks everyone for the support.

  Ravyn
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  Zoewrex

  Rav - You are the only one who knows your limits. Stick to it and stay in touch with the police. Great job with that by the way and now I want to move to VA! ALSO - sorry for the post regarding the certified mail - reflecting on that made me a bit upset only because in a back aswards way you're validating thier beliefs by stating you're an apostate. You're still playing by their rules and there's no reason why you should be expected to do that. You've made a great new life for yourself! SO get in the groove with your Ying & Yang, your Chi and Phi .... whatever....and just enjoy your life. And don't forget the wine!