Myelain: we only know about the inscription from the only people with means and motive to fabricate the story: the people who wrote the bible.
Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
the thread is about biblical prophesy being fulfilled. the answer regarding the King of "the kingdom" is found in the bible...
What is your point? Did daniel fabricate the prophesy up for discussion?
Myelain: the inscription supposedly put over jesus: And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew: THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS." luke 23:38
we only know about this from the only people with means and motive to make it up: the writers of the bible.
Well, Viviane's argument WAS:
" In any event, Jesus never became King, so the prophecy fails. You can, of course, argue he is Kingin heaven, but that'sa theological argument and not a historical one."...
You can move the goalposts around all day but, scripture answered her argument.....love michelle
you said, " In any event, Jesus was never made king. The prophecy fails."...
pontius pilate was the "supreme judge" over samaria and judea and he personally made a sign and affixed it to the cross of Jesus Christ that said:
“And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew: THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS." luke 23:38
I did`nt move the Goal Posts..
Your using the Roman Sign as Proof..Jesus was recognized as King of the Jews
The Romans did`nt recognize Jesus as King of the Jews..
They were mocking him..
Regarding the charge of claiming to be a king, Jesus said...
"My kingdom is not of this world." - John 18:36
That just leaves You and the Pharrasies advertising Jesus was King..LOL!!!!!!..
It gives me a headache arguing with people who claim to have proof and provide none..Especially religious threads..
I`m off this thread..Bye!..LOL!!..
Viviane opened the floor to refutation of BIBLICAL prophesy being fulfilled or not. If you want to contend that the OT prophesies (in the bible) are fabricated that may be another thread you'd like to open but, this thread hasn't been about that.
So the bible says that other stuff the bible says actually happened.
Am I missing something?
you said, "Your using the Roman Sign as Proof..Jesus was recognized as King of the Jew"...
actually no, I'm not. I'm saying that Jesus was made King of the jews...whether it was recognized by rome or the jews, whether it was mocking is beside the point. The stage was set and the (opposing!!) actors were in their place to fulfill the prophesies that God would choose and set a King (one like the son of man) over "the kingdom"...daniel 4:35; 7:13-14.
Viviane started it.
Myeelain: you dont get my point. Its very simple, the only source that tell you about that sign is the nt, but the nt is written by the only people with a motive for making up that detail.
The first point to prove before claiming a prophecy is:
- When was it written?
Obviously it is not a prophecy if it was written after the event, and there is no proof that any detailed events in the Bible were written prior to the event. Therefore, there is nothing in the Bible to indicate inspiration.