Biblical Prohecies That Came True?

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  • Vidqun
    Vidqun

    SG098, I believe one's faith must be built on knowledge. This knowledge one attains through study. Study fields: History, language studies, everyday events, and yes, prophecy.

    Viv, some prophecies pertain to the future. E.g. some of Daniel's prophecies. Here's a few quotes:

    Daniel tells Nebuchadnezzar: “However, there exists a God in the heavens who is a Revealer of secrets, and he has made known to King Nebuchadnezzar what is to occur in the final part [’acharith] of the days” [“the latter days,” KJV] (Dan. 2:28).[1]

    Later the angel Gabriel informs Daniel: “Understand, O son of man, that the vision is for the time of [the] end” [“the end time,” NAB] (Dan. 8:17b).[2] He continues: “Here I am causing you to know what will occur in the final part [’acharith] of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of the end.” The “final part of the denunciation” refers to God’s anger during “the time of the end” (cf. Dan. 8:19, 25).

    The small horn or fierce king will rise “in the final part [’acharith] of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to completion” (cf. Dan. 8:23). Gabriel concludes: “And you, for your part, keep secret the vision, because it is for many days” [“it concerns the distant future,” NIV] (cf. Dan. 8:26b).

    Concerning the final vision, the angel reveals: “And I have come to cause you to discern what will befall your people in the final part [’acharith] of the days, because it is a vision yet for the days [to come]” [“for the vision pertains to future days,” NET] (cf. Dan. 10:14). [Cursive script added.][3]

    The final King of the North “will certainly prove successful until [the] denunciation will have come to a finish.” Again the “denunciation” here refers to God’s wrath, indicating that the final King of the North would from hereon remain the same, enjoying great success, until his destruction during the closing phase of “the end time” (cf. Dan. 11:36, 40, 45 NAB).


    [1] This eschatological marker often occurs in the prophetic books of the Bible, corresponding to a new era in human history (Is. 2:2; Jer. 23:20; 30:24; 48:47; 49:39; Dan. 12:13; Hosea 3:5; Mic. 4:1; cf. Ezek. 38:8, 16).

    [2] This eschatological marker occurs six times in the book of Daniel. Only the prophet Daniel would make use of it (cf. Dan. 8:17, 19; 11:35, 40; 12:4, 9).

    [3] Like the Septuagint text of Jeremia, the Messianism of Daniel would look towards a future fulfillment beyond the historical fulfillment of Ezra-Nehemiah (cf. Dan. 7:13, 14; 9:25). In Dan. 2:28 the Hebraism (“at the end of the days”) sets the stage for the eschatology of the book. It is also a connection between the Aramaic and Hebrew section (cf. Dan. 2:28; 10:14). See Michael B. Shepherd, The Verbal System of Biblical Aramaic: A Distributional Approach (Studies in Biblical Literature, vol. 116), Peter Lang Publishing, New York 2008, pp. 14, 15.

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear Viviane...

    you said, " In any event, Jesus never became King, so the prophecy fails. You can, of course, argue he is Kingin heaven, but that'sa theological argument and not a historical one."...

    in john 12:12-16 it is written that there were a multitude of people who, of their own accord, welcomed Jesus as King into Jerusalem. The pharisees witnessed the procession (john 12:19) and that may be why they argued about "king of the jews" being inscribed on His cross (john 19:21) Jesus was elected King and Saviour by a multitude of jewish people without any involvement of the priests as was the custom.

    love michelle

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Dear myelane, Barabbas was chosen by the people too, and no doubt people championed other rebel leaders, but they never became King, unless you have some proof from outside of the Bible that Jesus did reign. Good luck with finding that.

    Democratic elections were a thing of the future, the People's Will counted for nought.

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    An argument can be made for the futility of siting specific dates with occurrences in the bible in that a person can be blind to prophesy even having seen it. the scriptures elude to the idea that until eyes are opened by God there is no real "vision"

    luke 24:13-32

    zechariah 12:10

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear Phizzy...

    Jewish Kings were chosen by God...

    the multitude welcomed Jesus as King into Jerusalem. As it is today a person has to choose or elect Him as King.

    love michelle

  • Viviane
    Viviane

    in john 12:12-16 it is written that there were a multitude of people who, of their own accord, welcomed Jesus as King into Jerusalem. The pharisees witnessed the procession (john 12:19) and that may be why they argued about "king of the jews" being inscribed on His cross (john 19:21) Jesus was elected King and Saviour by a multitude of jewish people without any involvement of the priests as was the custom.

    Kings, by definition, are not elected by the people. That wasn't the custom and being welcomed as King doesn't make one King. Also, no scripture ever said a man named Jesus would be crowned King.

    An argument can be made for the futility of siting specific dates with occurrences in the bible in that a person can be blind to prophesy even having seen it. the scriptures elude to the idea that until eyes are opened by God there is no real "vision"

    That's an argument and a terrible one. Dates would be amazing.

  • Viviane
    Viviane

    Viv, some prophecies pertain to the future. E.g. some of Daniel's prophecies. Here's a few quotes:

    OK. Which of those is a specific prohecy that came true?

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  • jgnat
    jgnat

    A citizen of Rome was expected to make the appropriate sacrifices to their God and King, Caesar. Those who didn't, well, were enemies of the King.

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/pliny1.asp

    I think what baffled Pliny the Younger is why a Christian might not make sacrifices to his god AND Caesar.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

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    7 Pages..

    No Proof of Biblical Prophecies..

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    .........I Predict There Won`t Be Any..

    ..............In The Pages To Come..

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