2012 Memorial Partakers--12,604!

by Atlantis 124 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    1914 is the next to go - notwithstanding the two part article on 607 - that was just damage control until they can figure out the details.

    I think this is possible. They wouldn't admit to any error in their calculation of the date, just in their expectations/interpretations of what 1914 meant. Remember, jehovahs servants have always just been imperfect men Look how quickly they kicked the original generation of 70-80 years to the curb in 1995. . . . They didn't waste any time, even thought they could have bought a few more years until Y2K.

    2015 might be the year that 1914 goes the way of the dodo. And most won't care. . . actually they cannot care! Where else will they go?
  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Simple facts ..... the number of practicing JWS has grown over the years hence the comparative growth in the numbers of the anointed ones.

    Add in the years that some of people have actual been JWS and you can come to a probable and logical reason for the increase .

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    OOOHHHH!! Hamster Bait, you are probably right! As years pass, and some die off, and others leave, they will sneak some changes in. The even less educated foreign speaking converts will never bat an eye when 1914 is dissolved. They already have no clue of anything pre-1914. If they are poor but have a moblie device with the WT Library, then they can only go back to 2000.

    The GB are spin masters! A mass exodus will be a sign that they have the truth! Retreating to Warwick will also be a sign of Jah's blessing. I guess the center of the New World Society was made up of less people than we thought, says the GB! We always knew that only those who endure to the end will be saved! Now..about that 1914 thingy... just push your literature carts around until we figure this out!!

    00DAD,

    Funny how that line of biblical evidence disappeared from the " Special Talk" outline!!

    Here is good one:

    Heavenly Calling closed? 8/15/1996 watchtower

    QuestionsFromReaders

    ThereportsforsomeyearsshowthatthenumberpartakingoftheMemorialemblemsincreasedslightly.Doesthissuggestthatmanynewonesarebeinganointedwithholyspirit?

    There is good reason to believe that the number of 144,000 anointed Christians was complete decades ago.

    At Acts 2:1-4, we read about the first ones in that limited group: "Now while the day of the festival of Pentecost was in progress they were all together at the same place, and suddenly there occurred from heaven a noise just like that of a rushing stiff breeze, and it filled the whole house in which they were sitting. And tongues as if of fire became visible to them and were distributed about, and one sat upon each one of them, and they all became filled with holy spirit and started to speak with different tongues, just as the spirit was granting them to make utterance."

    After that, Jehovah selected others, and he anointed them with his holy spirit. Thousands were added in the very early years of Christianity. At the Memorial celebration in our time, the speaker often calls attention to the apostle Paul's words at Romans 8:15-17, which mention that the anointed 'receive a spirit of adoption as sons.' Paul added that the holy spirit they receive 'bears witness with their spirit, that they are God's children, joint heirs with Christ.' Those who truly have this spirit-anointing know it with certainty. It is not a mere wish or a reflection of an emotional and unrealistic view of themselves.

    We understand that this heavenly calling continued down through the centuries, though during the so-called Dark Ages, there may have been times when the number of anointed ones were very few. With the reestablishment of true Christianity near the end of the last century, more were called and chosen. But it seems that in the mid-1930's, the full number of the 144,000 was basically completed. Thus there began to appear a group of loyal Christians with the earthly hope. Jesus termed such "other sheep," who unite in worship with the anointed as one approved flock.-John 10:14-16.

    The facts over the decades reflect both the completion of the calling of the anointed and Jehovah's blessing on the growing "great crowd," who hope to survive "the great tribulation." (Revelation 7:9, 14) For example, at the Memorial celebration in 1935, attended by 63,146, those partaking of the emblems in evidence of their profession to be anointed numbered 52,465. Thirty years later, or in 1965, the attendance was 1,933,089, while the partakers decreased to 11,550. Moving 30 years closer, in 1995 the attendance jumped to 13,147,201, but only 8,645 partook of the bread and the wine. (1 Corinthians 11:23-26) Clearly, as the decades passed, the number of those professing to be of the remnant greatly decreased-some 52,400 in 1935; 11,500 in 1965; 8,600 in 1995. However, those with earthly hopes have been blessed, and their number has increased abundantly.

    The most recent published report is for the year 1995, and it shows 28 more partakers than in the preceding year though the ratio of partakers to those attending did actually drop. On balance, that a few more chose to partake of the emblems is no cause for concern. Over the years some, even ones newly baptized, have suddenly begun to partake. In a number of cases, after a while they acknowledged that this was an error. Some have recognized that they partook as an emotional response to perhaps physical or mental strain. But they came to see that they really were not called to heavenly life. They asked for God's merciful understanding. And they continue to serve him as fine, loyal Christians, having the hope of everlasting life on earth.

    There is no need for any of us to be concerned if a person begins to partake of the emblems or ceases to do so. It really is not up to us whether someone actually has been anointed with holy spirit and called to heavenly life or not. Recall Jesus' solid assurance: "I am the fine shepherd, and I know my sheep." Just as assuredly, Jehovah knows those whom he has chosen as spiritual sons. There is every reason to believe that the number of anointed ones will continue to decline as advanced age and unforeseen occurrences end their earthly lives.

    I love this one! " . In a number of cases, after a while they acknowledged that this was an error. Some have recognized that they partook as an emotional response to perhaps physical or mental strain. But they came to see that they really were not called to heavenly life. They asked for God's merciful understanding. "

    Translation: In a number of cases they were beaten mentally and emotionally by the Elders and made to recant because the FDS and the WT articles are infallible, and must be revered to without hesitaion.

  • cedars
    cedars

    james_woods

    They will stop reporting the number of partakers worldwide.

    I honestly think the days of the wordwide report are numbered, period - never mind the memorial figures.

    They're now down to 1.9% world growth and the Society is starting to get into an intriguing game of limbo. How low can they go before they pull the plug?

    limbo

    Cedars

  • simon17
    simon17

    OK, I found 3 "guess the partakers" threads:

    Here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/222643/2/Memorial-Partakers-guesses

    Here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/224121/4/Memorial-partakers-this-year

    And here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/222516/2/Partakers-this-year-How-many

    The WINNER is.......

    JimTX with 12654, a mere 50 away from the correct total. Congratulations. You win some unleavened bread.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    I presented a similar chart concerning last years numbers to the Elders at my KH. This factored into the C.O becoming involved and suggesting that I am a possible apostate.

    Presenting articles from the WT makes u an apostate?

  • simon17
    simon17

    Three more fun stats:

    * We are now UP 48% from the all time low in 2005

    * This is the highest # of partakers in exactly FIFTY years (there were 12714 in 1962)

    * In the history of memorial partakers from WW1 on, there has never been a decade in which the %decrease was as severe as the %increase over the last decade. Between 2002 and 2012 we've increased 44%. The biggest decade of decrease was from 1945 to 1955 (down 42%).

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    BOC, good catch!! Yes, they are never wrong! " We just expected something else in 1914, but the date is solid! Oh, what's that?! Mark Sanderson is 90 years old you say? The overlapping overlappers are all dead. The WT literature only goes back to 2015?! Show some respect for the true channel of salvation!!"

    00DAD,

    Right you are! I was convicted using their own literature!!

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    Data, were u df'd for this? seriously?

  • happy@last
    [email protected]

    Off topic, sorry, but I couldn't help notice the footnote in Atlantis' scanned image, bringing in the money aspect. Subliminal messaging me thinks

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