Why Won't They Carbon Date This?

by Perry 246 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • cptkirk

    wait...but the earth was perfect and all the little puppies and little kittens were being hand fed by adam and eve i thought? it was only after they sinned that the earth fell into disrepair, and animals started being mean and naughty???? THE DINOSAURS WERE EATING EACHOTHER BEFORE ADAM AND EVE? BUT THEY WERENT UNDER [email protected] ONLY GODS PERFECT LOVE AND PEACE WAS MANIFEST!?!? no no it cant be true....actually when they were mocking noah while he was building the ark, many times the dinosaurs would run around and eat random people who observed the building of the ark. this made noah very happy when they would laugh at him. interesting that the bible refers to the water ox as "behemoth" or "great beast" in the year BC 1657 according to the nwt...genesis covered "in the beginning" to 1657 BC according to nwt, but it uses the terminology great beast to refer to a fkn water ox? meanwhile t-rex is being battled with swords in england....lolololol!!!!!!!! no wait i got it. the dinosaurs WERE with adam and eve, they were just benevolent beasts that liked to cuddle with the apes...and only turned malevolent after the sin....

  • shamus100

    Oh shaddup! >:0

    There were more buffalo than large dinosaurs. Jeez, get back to reality.

  • Perry
    Your soft tissue exists in the same realm as your god.

    New Chapter,

    There is a reason why you are the only one arguing this point.

    A tiny blob of stretchy brown matter soft tissue from inside the leg bone suggests the specimen had not completely decomposed


    What else could it be but cognitive dissonance? Granted, paradigns aren't given up easily. But what is your reason for explaining why the T-Rex tissue in the above photograph has never been carbon dated publically?


    I really don't know. But I believe God. Here's a few thoughts from another believer. Another approach is found here.


    I don`t think I could write anything..

    That would make this thread funnier..LOL!!..

    ...................... ...OUTLAW

  • thetrueone

    Hey Perry you've already brought this bit of information on to the forum months ago, did you forget.

    Oh I know its Sunday and you didn't go to church this morning so you've come here to expel some biblical truths

    against us non-believers.

    There are many other scientific dating methods used by archaeological geologists to give insight to the age of rock and strata formations.

    University of Alberta researchers determined that a fossilized dinosaur bone found in New Mexico confounds the long established paradigm that the age of dinosaurs ended between 65.5 and 66 million years ago.

    The U of A team, led by Larry Heaman from the Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, determined the femur bone of a hadrosaur as being only 64.8 million years old. That means this particular plant eater was alive about 700,000 years after the mass extinction event many paleontologists believe wiped all non-avian dinosaurs off the face of earth, forever.

    Heaman and colleagues used a new direct-dating method called U-Pb (uranium-lead) dating. A laser beam unseats minute particles of the fossil, which then undergo isotopic analysis. This new technique not only allows the age of fossil bone to be determined but potentially can distinguish the type of food a dinosaur eats. Living bone contains very low levels of uranium but during fossilization (typically less than 1000 years after death) bone is enriched in elements like uranium. The uranium atoms in bone decay spontaneously to lead over time and once fossilization is complete the uranium-lead clock starts ticking. The isotopic composition of lead determined in the hadrosaur's femur bone is therefore a measure of its absolute age.

    Currently, paleontologists date dinosaur fossils using a technique called relative chronology. Where possible, a fossil's age is estimated relative to the known depositional age of a layer of sediment in which it was found or constrained by the known depositional ages of layers above and below the fossil-bearing horizon. However, obtaining accurate depositional ages for sedimentary rocks is very difficult and as a consequence the depositional age of most fossil horizons is poorly constrained. A potential weakness for the relative chronology approach is that over millions of years geologic and environmental forces may cause erosion of a fossil-bearing horizon and therefore a fossil can drift or migrate from its original layer in the strata. The researchers say their direct-dating method precludes the reworking process.

    It's widely believed that a mass extinction of the dinosaurs happened between 65.5 and 66 million years ago. It's commonly believed debris from a giant meteorite impact blocked out the Sun, causing extreme climate conditions and killing vegetation worldwide.

    Heaman and his research colleagues say there could be several reasons why the New Mexico hadrosaur came from a line of dinosaurs that survived the great mass extinction events of the late Cretaceous period (KT extinction event). Heaman says it's possible that in some areas the vegetation wasn't wiped out and a number of the hadrosaur species survived. The researchers also say the potential survival of dinosaur eggs during extreme climatic conditions needs to be explored.

    Heaman and his colleagues believe if their new uranium-lead dating technique bears out on more fossil samples then the KT extinction paradigm and the end of the dinosaurs will have to be revised.

  • jaguarbass

    All I can think is many of you are very young and very unread.

  • cantleave

    I'm not young and definitely not unread!

  • Terry


    What else could it be but cognitive dissonance? Granted, paradigns aren't given up easily. But what is your reason for explaining why the T-Rex tissue in the above photograph has never been carbon dated publically?

    I see it this way, Perry.

    What if you were to walk in to NASA and demand they measure the distance from the Earth to the Moon with a carpenter's tape measure?

    They would probably explain patiently that the carpenter's measure was the perfect tool for distances 6 feet and under and there were better tools available.

    Now--this might cause you to suspect they were afraid to use the carpenter's tape measure and posit a conspiracy or two. But, would that be reasonable?

    Because of the way Carbon dating works it has a built-in limit. It is the wrong tool. Period.

    How is that unreasonable?

    (Postscript) Did you know that the distance from Earth to Moon is not from surface to surface, but, from center of sphere to center of sphere?

    The average distance is about 239, 000 miles, by the way!

  • shamus100

    Young and unread? What do you do for work, Jaguarbass? How old are you?

    Why don't we stick to the subject. Buffalo and dinosaurs. Please, do go on now. When the ancient humans killed off the dinosaurs, this must have been before Christ, without a doubt. Agreed?

    What types of weaponry do you feel they used? I do use the word 'feel' because I highly doubt that there is any evidence that you can present here. If there is evidence, please accept my sincere apology. I may not agree with the evidence, but I can agree to disagree with creationists, no problem. But I would like to see some evidence.

    Please, fill me in.

  • cptkirk

    “If you have all this evidence and proof positive that God exists, you don’t need faith. I think he kind of designed it so that we’d never be able to prove his existence. And I think that’s really cool.” says Schweitzer.

    poor thing :(

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