What say you Christians ???

by wobble 277 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • designs
    designs

    FHN-

    Universalism is always Heretical to those who want to be Special, kinda like being chosen out of the audience for Sesame Street

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow
    FHN-Universalism is always Heretical to those who want to be Special, kinda like being chosen out of the audience for Sesame Street

    Yes, or a country club or neighborhood or school or social club. Some people can't feel special unless a lot of other people are unspecial.

    "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ allwill be made alive." (1 Cor. 15:22)."

    All die. All made alive.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    We could go on forever doing this, you know?

    1 Corinthians 15:22 (Contemporary English Version)

    22 Adam brought death to all of us, and Christ will bring life to all of us.

    1 Corinthians 15:22 (New King James Version)

    22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

    1 Corinthians 15:22 (New Century Version)

    22 In Adam all of us die. In the same way, in Christ all of us will be made alive again.

    1 Corinthians 15:22 (Common English Bible)

    22 In the same way that everyone dies in Adam, so also everyone will be given life in Christ.

    1 Corinthians 15:22 (Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition)

    22 And as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive.

    1 Corinthians 15:22 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)

    22 For just as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. (A)

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    What about the broad road, leading off into destruction?

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow
    What about the broad road, leading off into destruction?

    What about it?

    Few find out the very loyal, loving nature of their creator, while on earth. The majority of fundamentalists? They live their lives according to a destructive view. So they don't really live.

    There are those who discover God's true nature while still here on earth and they live their lives now with a view to really live. The idea that few find eternal life makes the very idea that Christ died for us of a lot less value. If his death was sacrificial, then the more he saves, the more valuable his shed blood becomes, does it not?

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    One thing FHN, Paul was saying that ALL those IN CHRIST will be made alive, not ALL will be made alive.

    The universalisim of the Gospel is for ALL and God's Grace is for all, BUT it is IN CHRIST that we are saved.

    Of course, "IN CHRIST" and what that means is the key, isn't it?

    Many believe in Christ but they are NOT IN Christ and many do NOT believe in Christ but are IN Christ.

    God and Christ KNOW their own, far better than we ever will.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    So, MOST are not destroyed?

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow
    One thing FHN, Paul was saying that ALL those IN CHRIST will be made alive, not ALL will be made alive.

    Read it again. He did not say all those in Christ. He said ALL die because of Adam. All will live because of Christ. ALL. Everyone. Period.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    If everyone gets the reward, why the emphasis on a life of self-denial and proselytizing?

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow
    So, MOST are not destroyed?

    You are interpreting the scripture to speak of who will be saved. YOU and a few others. If people view God as a destructive God, they will live according to destruction. If they view him as a God of love who brings life to all, they will live according to life. Few people figure out that God is a life giver, not a life taker. Think about how this will affect your whole view of life, viewing God as a loving life giver whose love does not fail ANY of his children. That's a rhetorical question for you to ponder.

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