For non-believers: What evidence would it take for you to believe in 'god'?

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  • Nickolas

    So what's your theory on the crop circles, Nickolas?

    Human ingenuity.

  • Nickolas

    Thanks for the link, PSac. Its intro reads:

    The animosity has its roots in religion and history,

    Religion and history. Once might wonder what happened first, the religion or the history. As to cultural differences, how could it be otherwise? Religion is a big part of culture, is it not?

    Slept in today. Time to get to work.

  • SweetBabyCheezits

    Via Wiki...

    A 780 ft crop circle in the form of a double (six-sided) triskelion composed of 409 circles. John Lundberg has claimed responsibility for its production. Location: Milk Hill (England), 2001

    Since the early 1990s the UK arts collective founded by artists Rod Dickinson and John Lundberg (and subsequently includes artists Wil Russell and Rob Irving), named the Circlemakers, have been creating some crop circles in the UK and around the world both as part of their art practice and for commercial clients. [ 9 ] [ 10 ]

  • Giordano

    "Human Ingenuity."

    Relating to Crop circles: In short Crop circles have become a cottage industry in South Brittan with books, lectures, and 'tools' being sold to those who want to be part of the 'mystery'.

    "Despite the intense interest among the paranormal enthusiasts for supernatural explanations that depend on alternate science or UFOs, the most likely cause for almost all of the crop circles is that they are hoaxes.

    Believers in supernatural explanations also argue that many of the crop circles are extremely complicated patterns that would be impossible to create by hand in a single night. Indeed, some of the patterns do seem bafflingly complex.

    In 2009 a crew from National Geographic television challenged a group of artists called the Circlemakers to reproduce a highly-complex pattern designed by a professor of mathematics at the Imperial College of London. The formation, based on the Circles of Apollonius, required making over eighty circles of various sizes in exacting locations across the field. The group had to do this in a single night, arriving after dark and leaving before sunrise. Though the work took most of the evening, the Circlemakers were able to complete the complex diagram without mistakes, demonstrating that even the most complex formations can be made by a group of dedicated workers in just a few hours. "

  • PSacramento

    Beautifully done, truly a work of art.

    Has anyone seen them do it?

  • Nickolas
  • OnTheWayOut

    If a creator of man or even a creator of the entire universe were to "show up" and prove itself, it most certainly would not be the creator of man's mythologies and religions. Atheists would accept new proofs and adapt to proof of it's existence and learn about this incredible discovery, while many Christians, Muslims, and the like would be trying to force their old myths and doctrines to fit into the proven existence of this discovered "creator." They would cling to false beliefs and say that the existence of this creator proves they were right all along. They would miss out on learning much about the discovery that doesn't fit with their previous understanding from their mythology.

    In short, it's better to start from a null hypothesis (that which shows no evidence of existence does not exist) than to get all wrapped up in faith in the unknowable.

  • PSacramento

    That video is something, wow.

    Talk about too much time on your hands, LOL !!

  • trevor

    Given the many millions of years that creatures have swarmed over this plant for, my guess is that if a god was going to show up he would have arrived by now.

    I mean, we even have airplanes now, so there is no excuse for going AWOL.

  • ProdigalSon

    LOL. Nice try, but crop circles are nothing new, and they are not all hoaxes. They have been forming for hundreds of years. The hoaxes are to discredit the real ones, for the same reason that your ruling elite have covered up alien visitation.

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