Bless your kind heart. I would like to hope that your kindness touched Alice in some way, we shall see. Please be careful.
Anyhow, regarding shunning in your last post:
I agree. Those examples you used are extreme. I view ones like that as in great pain and needing help. Help that cannot be gotten at a K-Hall. That being said, I'm not completely against excluding certain ones, after they have been given help and there is no remorse or improvement. And yes, an adulterer knows the consequences of their actions.
However, the forgiveness should come alot quicker in the Org. Remember the adulteress that the people wanted to stone? What was Jesus reaction? Do you think he maybe knew something about her situation and what led her there, that the people did not? That's why he said, "Let him without sin cast the first stone." She was forgiven on the spot. We don't know what happened after that, but I bet she took what he said to heart.
Remember the prodigal son? When he returned, broke and broken, did the father shun him further? Did he grant his request to be allowed to live with the animals? Was he put on probation for a year or two before he was allowed back? Did he have to prove himself? No......he was no longer living a debauched life and was accepted lovingly by his father immediately.
My circumstances in life led me to be an adultress, as well. Please don't misunderstand me - I take responsibility for what I did. But I had to understand what led me to that point and how I could make sure that I never let myself sink to that level again. But I also know that to go back, would take a year or more of being treated very badly. And I also know that most would not accept me back anyways.
That level of hatred and unkindness is actually one of the main things that led me to where I was. being disfellowshipped has allowed me the peace and kindness of others that I needed to gain back my relationship with God. But I feel I have that now, not because of disfellowshipping, but in spite of it.
Alice demonstrates that same hatred, unkindness, judgmentalism and criticalness that drove me out from the Witnesses. I likely won't be here much longer either, because Alice's poison is not good for me. This board has helped me immensely up til now. But the spirit of it has changed because of her (and other's) influence. I am only speaking for myself here.