**** Some people don't teach their children manners. Grrr. ****

by FlyingHighNow 277 Replies latest jw friends

  • Scully
    Scully

    simply expecting courtesy and civilized behaviour in a public library ..She was perfectly in order IMHO ..

    When one's expectations are not met, however, it is completely out of order to criticize a mother's parenting - with scolding words or looks - in front of her children. IMHO. Better to say nothing and walk away to other seating. The "Grrr" in the thread title says more about FHN's dissatisfaction with and needing attention on a discussion board after not getting what she wanted, than it does about anyone else's manners or lack thereof.

    My impression of how FHN was perceived by the family about whom she chose to "comment" ...

  • crapola
    crapola

    I can't believe this subject made 9 pages! But I do believe in teaching our children good manners.

  • Odrade
    Odrade

    You perceived that someone was lacking manners, and you let her know what your thoughts were on the matter. You believe and hope you taught her some kind of lesson by shaming her in front of her children.

    When you bragged vented about it here, many of us pointed out that YOU were being rude and lacking manners. Your strident and strenuous defense of your (rude) behavior, amply demonstrates how ineffective it is to go around telling other people that you wish them to conform to your judgment and rule book.

    Of course, if she had asked for your opinion, it would be a different story. You, on the other hand, DID post this whole story here to be commented upon. But I guess you only want the attaboys.

    Let me ask you this: were the children reasonably quiet, and looking at books or doing other library appropriate things, or were they running amok, yelling, throwing things, tripping people? Then what on earth are you complaining about? Seems to me the mother WAS doing her job by taking the children to an appropriate place for some reading, learning and entertainment.

    If a child wishes to sit in a big, comfy chair at a library, and enjoy his book, who are you to stand in the way of that? To a child, placing a backpack on or near a chosen spot is enough to reserve the seat, and only someone with TERRIBLY bad manners would try to take that seat away from him.

    If two big comfy chairs are what it takes for two grade-school age children to be enthusiastic about going to a Library, that's one of the best things I've heard all week. IMO, the mother was absolutely right to make sure those chairs were still available for her youngsters when they came back with their books.

    Of course, you obviously feel that your right to sit in those particular chairs trumps encouraging young families to spend time in enjoyment and comfort in the Public Library.

    Well, you may be right, clearly your own self importance and value outstrips their value. I wonder what would have happened if the child was in possession of a book you wanted? Would you demand that the child relinquish that to you? After all, you are the adult, and by virtue of your age, clearly have more rights than children.

  • beksbks
    beksbks

    Scully, I take umbrage.

  • StoneWall
    StoneWall

    Quoting Scully from page 3

    LyingLowNow
    I think I'll call you that, since you don't have the respect or manners to spell my name correctly. Or maybe you're just too self-absorbed to be bothered.
    Skully, you must be under A LOT of stress. We really hit a sore spot with you.

    Wow you really got bent out of shape by her misspelling your name by just one letter. Pitching that big of a fit over that makes

    me think if she would have got a few more letters wrong and typed "Sulky" instead of Scully you mighta went into cardiac arrest.

    No, you haven't hit a sore spot with me

    Sure seems it to me.

    This topic has nothing to do with an exJW forum, and everything to do with you being an attention whore.
    Carry on.

    Thats where you're wrong. Manners (or lack thereof) have a lot to do with JW's and the way they shun others or treat

    them in a unloving way.

    And having not just one but two personal attacks against FHN by condescendingly calling her LyingLowNow and attention

    Whore. What's the matter did she take some of your attention away on another thread or something?

    Either she hit a nerve with you or you just rode in on your horse all pissy. I went back and read all your comments.

    FHN wouldn't it be so ironic if the woman in the library turned out to be Sulky...opps I meant Scully and thats why she is

    taking this so personal?

    Anyhow thats my two cents worth and I won't charge anyone a bit more than that.

    Oh yeah and carry on

  • cognizant dissident
    cognizant dissident

    Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the rudeness that some posters on this thread are displaying to one another is far greater than any rudeness that was displayed in the great library incident of 2009?

  • llbh
    llbh

    This is a very interesting thread in so many ways.

    In The Little Prince by Antoine De St Exupery, the behaviour of adults is examined through the prism of a child's mentality, and it says so much about the way we as adults behave, treat each other, and especially children.

    Social mores are usually our own, and to expect someone to conform to them is hubris imo. They may share them due to similar background and socialisation, if so we will have some common ground.

    I have travelled extensively throughout Europe and the manners displayed can vary quite widely. For instance Germans do frequently get up early in the morning to reserve seats by the pool and then leave and have breakfast or whatever, and this is irrespective of how expensive the Hotels are!! To them this quite is acceptable behaviour. So a tip for fhn, and those of a similar disposition, do not go to Germany if you expect them to share the same mores as you.

    The views that many express here speaks volumes about them. The manners that children show is part of their upbringing and not ours. I for one was taught that children should be seen and not heard. This is a viewpoint i loathe, the views of children should be heard.

    I am amazed at how judgemental some people are here, surely when left we our former beliefs, we left that behind?.

    Regards David

  • cognizant dissident
    cognizant dissident

    Hey, we're talking about a group of people (myself included) who at one time say nothing rude about banging on their neighbours door at breakfast time, dinner time, or Christmas morning to tell them how they were all going to die if they didn't live their lives as we thought they should!

    We may have left JW doctrinal beliefs behind for other various beliefs, but a number of us have obviously held onto the belief that it is perfectly fine to aggressively foist onto others our views of how they should live.

  • cognac
    cognac

    Sorry to hijack the thread but something HAS to be said... (Please forgive my horrible manners)

    ODRADE - I've missed you!!!!!!! I'm so glad to see you back!!!

    ok, back to regular programming...

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    If I had it to do over again. I would have just given her the look and turned to her child while I said, "Ya mean you're gonna miss this fine opportunity to teach this handsome young man how to treat a lady?"

    It was probably best you did not get to do it over again as she could have gotten you for sexual harrassment.

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