by Terry 122 Replies latest jw friends
Is this something that routinely happens?? I have never heard of this before.
Let me ask it this way:
If a dfed/daed person went to a meeting from where he/she is known and talks to people would they would be asked to leave? If they declined to leave would they actually call the police?
That's correct isaacaustin. If a df'd or da'd person attended a meeting and talked to people after being warned (and maybe even without warning since jws know that df'd people aren't supposed to talk to people at the meetings), they can and I have seen them call the police and the police have escorted them out. While I don't think Terry caused any commotion, I do think that the WTS legally retains the right to exclude people from the meetings, much like restaurants having rules regarding dress and behavior. Just a known df'd person talking to jws at a meeting or a convention, is a possibility of disruption in their eyes. My advice for ex-jws wanting to attend is to not draw attention to themselves and not talk to jws. Just take a non-jw or ex-jw buddy and a few tracts to drop off as you leave at the end of the day.
*** w63 7/1 p. 413 What Disfellowshiping Means ***Therefore the members of the congregation will not associate with the disfellowshiped one, either in the Kingdom Hall or elsewhere. They will not converse with such one or show him recognition in any way. If the disfellowshiped person attempts to talk to others in the congregation, they should walk away from him. In this way he will feel the full import of his sin. Otherwise, if all communicated freely with the offender, he would be tempted to feel that his transgression was not such a terrible thing. If it occurs that someone visiting in the congregation or at a larger assembly is not aware that a person has been disfellowshiped and attempts to talk to that one, other brothers observing will tactfully inform him of the situation. Also, the disfellowshiped person who wants to do what is right should inform any approaching him in innocence that he is disfellowshiped and they should not be conversing with him.
*** w63 7/1 p. 412 What Disfellowshiping Means ***The transgressor loses other precious privileges in addition. He is removed from any positions of special service in the congregation. While he may attend all meetings at the Kingdom Hall that are open to the public, he will not be permitted to talk to individuals, address the congregation from the platform, nor contribute to discussions by offering comments from his seat. As long as he behaves properly he may come and sit, but if he becomes obstreperous he will be asked to leave
Now you went and gave her a part on the next Circuit Assembly about keeping Jehovahs Organization Clean. :) Shame on you you nasty apostate you LOL!
Thanks Blondie. Wow. I guess that WT sums it up.
I hope never to even be in one of those wastefests in the first place. "Open to the public" means just that--I have never seen any groups that were that arrogant in my life that they would alter the definition of "open to the public". Singling out one person because he is disfellowshipped to hound and harass--hopefully, those videos will provide one more reason why I do not recommend even going.
I feel for you Terry, I know how you must have felt. I have been there done it many moons ago when I was 18, just disfellowshipped and I dropped into the Circuit Assembly (which was being held in the small town I lived in) because I was feeling sad and alone after being tossed out and not having a friend in the world. The Attendants who knew me accosted me at the door and told me that I was not welcome. All I was going to do was sit and listen. So its not a new thing that they are doing this, that was almost 40 years ago. I walked away crying and dejected.
I applaude you for staying cool and calm and not making a scene. You sound like a real sweetie and didn't deserve that treatment. The guy on the video was way out of control and only made him look like a crazy apostate.
Velvetann
When I first returned to Texas after living in California for ten years I ran into a young woman whose JW family I was warmly connected with for a long time. She had been a hellraiser who finally settled in and had become zealous. We had shared so many life experiences over the years I assumed she greeted me with a hug and kiss because our connection and friendship went deeper than religion.
She was very glad to see me having tears in her eyes. We chatted and caught up. She hugged me again and kissed me on the cheek and said we had to get together soon.
I saw her not three days later at her mother's beauty salon. She cut me dead! Her mother did not and never would! Her mom apologized and told me that Debbbie had been lobotomized by the Watcthtower and didn't know what she was doing.
It hurt! In fact, it broke my frackin' heart! It still does.
So many people I spent years getting to know and love sharing important moments of our lives bonding and sharing life with------cut away like toenails! Zip. Nada. Like having your brain operated on and a memory bank removed by surgery!
I built so much of my life on absolutely NOTHING but belief, trust and a foundation of "love" about as solid as an elevator fart with a lump in it.
I guess I just can't get it through my thick skull that people can treat you this way!!
Quentin might remember the Market Hall Int'l assembly in the 60's where some "Evil Slaves" were in the parking lot handing out pamphlets.
I walked right up to them and asked them questions. Not in a challenging way at all. I was curious and eager to hear what they had to say.
An attendant came up to us and cautioned me away."Don't talk to these people, brother--they are enemies of Jehovah."
And now---I'm one!
velvetann - they are heartless scary people
Terry, i'm glad you've posted this. In my situation its easy to get lulled into a false sense of security, but behind their smiles and warmth is the cold hard knifelike steel of hate waiting to show itself.
Quentin might remember the Market Hall Int'l assembly in the 60's where some "Evil Slaves" were in the parking lot handing out pamphlets...Terry
Yes I do...also remeber the hammering we got at one of the next meetings, since 99% of the jw's dropped the pamphlets on the ground. The big boys were not happy, neither was Market Hall...
Debbie?...I never knew.....
Dude, You’ve got to let this go…..you are way better than this....
I know what you are saying,…..but…..I don’t think this is doing you any good at all…..
Just my opinion…….
