Called JR Brown regarding Cano Pedophile situation

by LDH 350 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  fjtoth

  Barbara,

  I can't tell you how much I appreciate your comments here and elsewhere in the forum. Sometimes I get pretty lonely way up here, isolated as I am from other former JWs who are still believers but who haven't gone off the deep end with some other odd group. Having contacts through this forum is therapeutic for me, when I have time for it. It's especially thrilling to hear from folks like you who I know from my years in Brooklyn. I wish you and Joe lots and lots of blessings for the good work you do that truly benefits so many.

  Frank
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  DannyHaszard

  Sometimes I get pretty lonely way up here, isolated as I am from other former JWs who

  I am saving all the great cartoons keep em coming
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  Nina

  I've often wondered what became of the "Get Down Brown" that we all knew (from taped talks) and loved...He used to be so forthright, so clear speaking!
  
  I remember the tale of the JW son who, one week after his 18th birthday, brought his books and Bible downstairs and told his parents that he didn't want to be a Witness any more. His JW father told him he couldn't remain under his roof if that was the case so the now-unbelieving (didn't say anything about a JC or judicial action) son moved out. *One Week Later* the xJW son found himself in a bar, chatting with a "worldly" girl. What he didn't know was that she was the girlfriend of one of the men in the bar. The man told the 18-year-old now xJW to stay away from his girl, xJW told him he could do whatever he wants, xJW is killed in the fracas that followed. This is what happens when you walk away from Jehovah, Get Down Brown proclaimed! No hope of resurrection, grieving family left behind knowing that they would never get to see their son again!
  
  The talk we REALLY loved was the one with the example of the school bus driver who caught a 3- or 4-year old bringing porn onto the school bus and sharing it with the other little passengers. The message: Teach Your Children! "If they're old enough to do wrong they're old enough to do right!" My whole family, down through the youngest child, cheered at that one! We were on the right track, Brother Brown just said so! We worked hard to make him proud, even though he was hundreds (sometimes thousands) of miles away and didn't even know we existed! He spoke for Jehovah and Jehovah's organization. He outlined the standards. We listened and did our best to obey.
  
  Same talk: Brother Brown asks how it is that kids can learn all the words to every rap song and can't learn a 30- to 60-second presentation? Names of the apostles, can you rap that out?
  
  JR Brown kept us on the straight and narrow back then. We scavenged for taped talks, for experiences, anything that would help us to progress in Jehovah's service, anything that would support the children's efforts to serve Jehovah in the days of their youth.
  
  What happened??? We thought he was like us! Now he sounds like a snake oil salesman! With the way he's talking now no one can get clear direction!
  
  Out but still wondering,
  

  Nina
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  fjtoth
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  hubert

  In a year's time there are probably 50 to 60,000 around the world who are disfellowshipped. Now [at] last figure, about half or more of them repent and change and come back.

  So what J.R. Brown is basically saying here is,

  "We destroy about 30,000 families a year".

  Hubert
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  Country Girl

  I remember the tale of the JW son who, one week after his 18th birthday, brought his books and Bible downstairs and told his parents that he didn't want to be a Witness any more. His JW father told him he couldn't remain under his roof if that was the case so the now-unbelieving (didn't say anything about a JC or judicial action) son moved out. *One Week Later* the xJW son found himself in a bar, chatting with a "worldly" girl. What he didn't know was that she was the girlfriend of one of the men in the bar. The man told the 18-year-old now xJW to stay away from his girl, xJW told him he could do whatever he wants, xJW is killed in the fracas that followed. This is what happens when you walk away from Jehovah, Get Down Brown proclaimed! No hope of resurrection, grieving family left behind knowing that they would never get to see their son again!

  Nope. It's what happens when you are raised in a cult and have no social skills, BUT a sense of superiority and entitlement.

  CG
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  Axelspeed

  First I must say that you were very cool under pressure and I thought you got a great interview. Yes, he could have revealed more, but he is the PR guy, and he was skating the watered down fine line as about as close as a JW can. It is kind of disappointing what JR is reduced to shoveling now. I think you took it as far as you could without raising any flags.

  I did find a some of his comments interesting and worthy of reference down the road. These are a couple of them:

  1. (8:20) He stated that there were no prophets like Jeremiah, Isaiah "or other prophets" in the organization today. And then answered "no, no" to the question of whether the organization was spirit-inspired or spirit directed. It was done in a quick perfunctory way, but done nonetheless. This would seem to be in direct contradiction to the following question for baptism:
     
     "Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?"
  2. (11:20) We don't go out and say we are the only true religion. I haven't looked and don't have the inclination to, but I think there are many references that could be found where they say they are.

  At around the 30 min. mark I got a good laugh when you said "other members of the...is it...Waco family?" and then quickly corrected that it was more accurately Wallkill by Brown. Nice touch for a worldly reporter.

  Axel
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  LDH

  I got a good laugh when you said "other members of the...is it...Waco family?" and then quickly corrected that it was more accurately Wallkill by Brown. Nice touch for a worldly reporter.

  Who me? You got it. I never used lingo that would have 'given me away.' Let that be a lesson to all you whippersnappers that think you can walk where angels deeminz fear to tread, into the lair of JR Brown.

  Lisa

  Fire-proof Boots Class
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  nelly136

  sooo if they're losing aprox 30,000 a year (discounting returners) and they have X amount now, how long is it till extinction...ummm i mean.... armagonnagettum?
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  lonelysheep

  Two things I forgot to mention--

  To the anonymous person who recorded this phone conversation: A HUGE THANK YOU!! I am grateful to you for enabling this to be shared with everyone here (and hopefully DATELINE one day)!

  I got a good laugh when you said "other members of the...is it...Waco family?" and then quickly corrected that it was more accurately Wallkill by Brown. Nice touch for a worldly reporter.

  Lisa,

  I started cracking up after that!!!!!!!!! Thinking about it now makes me laugh. You little devil, you!