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Did Satan lie or was it the truth?
by shotgun insatan the biblical originator of the lie...was he?.
god told adam:.
16 the lord god (56) commanded the man, saying, "from any tree of the garden you may eat freely; .
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Doubt......Is it Always Bad
by shotgun ini had to share this..
an elder dropped off some material he printed out to encourage me.....i don't think he read it himself....in discussions i have continually pointed out the reason why i have doubts is because i've read most of the publications from the late 1800's right through the glory years 1914 to 1942 and lost faith due to seeing the repeated changes and false predictions made by russell and rutherford.
why would god tell rutherford to name anything after him and reveal complex bible passages which are still hotly debated by many scholars while allowing him to teach and mislead thousands under that same banner of truth.
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Was the Holy Spirit part of Jesus or a force controlled by God
by shotgun inthe account where the woman with the blood flow touched jesus outer garment and was cured interests me.. jesus felt the power leave him and looked to see who touched him.
if the holy spirit was an active force seperate and controlled by god why would jesus have felt a power drain.. if you consider most of jesus healings to be a placebo which only healed people who believed like present day faith healers do this account sheds a different perspective.. if you believe jesus was god and all powerful it seems strange that he would notice the insignicant power needed to stop a flow of blood considering the awesome displays of power which never seemed to bother him(calming a storm, replacing a severed ear, raising the dead, feeding thousands with basically nothing..although my mom could do that too).
what are your thoughts...yes you too mr canon...not too long though...ok...remember kiss
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Is the literature free in your country(Voluntary donation)
by shotgun in.
is the wtbts publications free in your respective countries or is there still a posted charge for it?.
i know us, canada, france and the land down under are free.....not exactly free they cost you your life but you know what i mean.
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Why was Adam not a leader or made a ruler?
by shotgun inas a dub it always made me wonder if the years spoken of in genesis were real years or something got lost in the translations.. consider the first man adam was alive at the same time methusela was.
methusela died the same year as the flood.
this means two mens lifetimes covered the period from creation to the flood.
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No more beard.
by shotgun ini just can't keep my mouth shut.... i was told on the weekend of a person who has been studying for a long time and finally made the commitment to be baptized.
how do they know this.....he shaved off his beard which he has had for forty years.
his beard covered a small growth on his neck and he always kept it nice and trim..looked great on him.. anyway i asked what publication points out that beards should not be worn...of course i know there are none specifically.
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Santa or Satan?
by shotgun inhas anyone seen any publications which say santa is another name for satan...maybe the insight book?.
it was spouted at me on the weekend and i laughed..which you should never do to jw's as it gets their hair up.. .
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Sticks and stones along with a dirty slur.
by shotgun insince first coming out to family with doubts and subsequently the elders i have been labelled as apostate or on the path of apostasy.. i had never realized what a disgusting dirty word jw's make this into until it applied to me?
during meetings, comments from the publications even remarks from children and so on reflect the hatred the word carries with it to them.
i know a word is only as powerful as you make it but boy they have made the word apostate huge in the minds of all dubs.. yesterday when i got home my wife related her day with our child and how they spent it visiting another sister and her children.
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What did you lose or give up to break free of the Borg?
by shotgun infor all of you who made a conscious decision to leave the organization.. what was the price you had to pay or what was you willing to give up in order to be true to yourself.
( wife, children, extended family, friends, jobs...etc).
and how have you coped?
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The right age to get baptized?
by shotgun ini've always wondered why it was ok for jesus to wait until he was 29 to get baptized in symbol of his dedication while jw's are pressured at such an early age.
do you suppose joseph was always on his case...jesus get up its time to go to the temple.....why didn't you comment today?.......when are you going stop hanging out in gallilee with all your friends and get baptized?.
is this just another control aspect of the wtbts, handcuff you to the org while your young and make it almost impossible to leave later when you mature?