Ask any christian about why Jesus had to die and they will talk about how Jesus suffered the punishment for their sins
So what was the outcome of Jesus death. Tangible things please.
EverApostate
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Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me
by Doug Mason inaccording to the watchtower:.
who received the ransom payment?.
why did the ransomer need to be paid?.
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EverApostate
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Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me
by Doug Mason inaccording to the watchtower:.
who received the ransom payment?.
why did the ransomer need to be paid?.
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EverApostate
A father had 2 sons. Eldest was wicked and youngest innocent. In order to Forgive the Eldest, he commands him to kill his younger brother in a gruesome manner. What a Dad.
Despite the killing, the eldest son is not forgiven yet.
That's Christianity.
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So, is it the publicity, or act itself that "brings reproach on Jehovah's name"?
by stuckinarut2 inas we all sadly know, a common expression used by the society and elders in cases of abuse, or scandals, is "if you talk about this, you will bring reproach on jehovah's name!".
this is uttered in order to deter making something known.. but really, if it is a case of abuse, is not the act itself the thing that brings "reproach on jehovah"?.
making it known is not the problem.. rather hiding it, or not disclosing it to authorities is the thing that brings reproach!.
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EverApostate
Famous car Company cover ups on failures are good Examples. They cover up until the body count rises and someone files a suit.
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Watchtower Writings vs Christian Philosophers
by Boredposter inwatchtower writings used to have some meat to them.
they have been increasingly watered down and simplified.
i think we all recognize that.
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EverApostate
Watchtower writings used to have some meat to them
After 11 years, I found out it was all spoiled meat. Lucky me, I survived
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BLUE PLANET2- A Designer?
by ScottyRex inha well- kind of.. i have read lots of cofty's post on evolution and tbh am so interested at his intelligent and thought proving threads.
they are all factual, unemotional and point to may scientific sources.
they cut through so may per-concieved ideas about life and do have that ring of truth.. but i feel empty and a little uncomfortable.
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EverApostate
Is emotion to be confused with stupidness?
Many times the above has proven to be true in my life. That is why they say "Think with your mind and not your heart"
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Where in the bible does it say that the governments will turn on the religions. Like the Dubs always say this will happen
by goingthruthemotions ini have not been here in a while, just trying to move on with my life all the while dealing with a very pimi brainwashed wife.. so the other day she started saying that we will have to go our own ways when things get worse with this world.
she has said this before because she believes that the government will turn on religion and the great and powerful wizards (guardians of doctrine g.o.d.
) will call everyone and tell them where to go.. thank god, (no pun intended) i have been out of the loop for such a long time.
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EverApostate
The multi horned beast that arises from the sea will destroy the Prostitute. This is what Jws interpret from the Bible
Beast = United Nations
Prostitute = World religions.
Believe me, I'm dead serious.
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It Might Have Hit The Fan
by VW.org ini haven't associated with the jws for at least 6 months.
they do not know that i am an apostate.
maybe till just now becaue i was browsing reddit and stumbled upon a story from a paper about $4000 a day fine imposed upon watchtower.
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VW.org
DONT YOU WORRY. The worst they can do is to mark you and advise other JWs not to have close associations with you. Nothing to fear. Its not worth. Its after all a Corporation.
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good article on how the Bible could have easily proven it's from God
by defender of truth inwww.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/02/13/six-and-a-half-reasons-why-the-bible-is-not-divinely-inspired/.
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EverApostate
I know that was sarcastic. Anyway, Let me play the prosecution for OnTheWayOut (
So, the Bible is only for those ancient people. And why couldn't God create a Bible for sinful humans to understand
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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EverApostate
Earth is a Horror Movie for God, who watches with Popcorn and soda.
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Genesis 38 and Me last week.
by EverApostate inchristians please pardon me.
this thread may not be suitable for you.. last week i came upon a youtube video of darkmatter2525 about genesis 38. on the preface, it says that this particular chapter - genesis 38:- has been willfully left out by many “biblical stories for children”.
true in its sense, the chapter goes on with some nasty stuff like judah, searching for prostitutes, and his own daughter in law tricking and seducing him to get pregnant.
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EverApostate
scratchme1010,
Yes, WT are experts at picking the candy from the gutter and preset to us with a new wrapper.