Posts by kaik

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Where you are in your life now.....What would you have preferred .... To be left in ignorance ? ...Or to know the truth about the truth

by smiddy in

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i think possibly their are a few valid reasons for either options to this question ,depending on a number of factors .. such as how old you might be, how long you have devoted your life to the "truth" as you believed it .

?....how it may affect your mental/physical health and well being.?.

how it will affect your financial position in your life ,?

kaik

I am in mid-40's. I grew up in it. I left 21 years ago, while leaving my entire biological family trapped in the cult. I started a new life with full of ideals. Most of the came through. I have successful corporate career, have a house with picket fencing, got education in field that I love. I am six months away from earning my master's degree (hard doing it by working full-time). I need that master to get promoted. I have stable marriage with the same person I met 18 years ago and it was a love on first sight. Leaving WT made me to think about future all the time. I am a planner, and I need stability. WT gave cocoon to people not to worry about future, only live for present. I am hoping to save enough money, I can leave workforce at age 60 and enjoy retirement.

I see how my JW family fared: broken marriage, no comfortable life, but having a hope that Jehovah will rescue them from their misery. WT is prison or totalitarian cult. I lived in totalitarian regime, and I understand why many people long to live in it. Totalitarian regime will line up your life for you, and you don't have to do anything. Just listen, and obey. Conform and do not complain. WT takes creativity and individuality as payback. I do not regret leaving WT.

I regret that my parents accepted my aunt's invitation to have bible study.

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I'm not so sure a bigger awakening is going to happen anymore

by bradford in

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when i left in march officially i started reading the forums here.

i had this excitement that more people would be leaving soon because of the crazy broadcasts, the crazy "new light" that the gb was dishing out, and more recently the australian royal commission lighting up geoffrey.

this past saturday i had an elder stop by to chat for the first time since i left.

kaik

I do not believe on sudden exodus at all. Anyone who were in the WT cult through 1970's-1990's would see the BS and walk away knowing that the theology, system of beliefs, and organization is nothing more than man-made invention. Yet, only individuals left. Other stayed behind. While WT is certainly in crisis, I see it as transformation phase to new level of BS to move from American business model of Knorr's era and vision of 1950's to something more global and less American. It is not the same religion I grew up and I left 20 years ago. As a group, JWs really do not care about flip-flopping doctrines, they just want to feel to be part of exclusive pact that would give them some assurance in survival of big "A" or after resurrection.

While it is possible some groups will split, WT survived 1925, 1975, and gen of 1914 fiasco, and will survive all of us. It is a wishful thinking that WT will explode and cave by many who left WT, but this won't happen.

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What is the most strange action of a witness while out in field service?

by adjusted knowledge in

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i was paired with this older "brother" when i was a teenager.

he was very very strange.

he was a nice guy but goofy.

kaik

I have seen some embarrassments while on field service. One elder loved to stop people in a passage way connecting bus terminal. He often did it that way that he will stop in front of them and prevented people to walk by. However, he caused one elderly woman with a cane to miss her bus. She came back waving the cane over her head screaming that because of him, she missed her bus. We very quickly disappeared in near by apartment complex.

Other time, we were doing field service in Carpathian mountains when we were invited into the farm house. The old man had hand carved huge, old, dinning table with field and forest life motifs: wolves, sheep, goats, bears, but the elder wife refused to sit by the table because she considered the motifs demonic.

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For those of you that are disfellowshipped, How Far Would Your Faithfull JW Family Go To Stay Loyal to The WT?

by John Aquila in

ive seen jw parents shun their disfellowshipped children for 20-30 years.

ive seen parents remove disfellowshipped or fader children from wills and give the inheritance to the watchtower..

if your country got run over by some form of government like the nazi regime and started a process of eliminating any groups or individuals who it considered a threat.

kaik

My aunt never reconciled with her son who was DF until her death. I know JWs who died without ever reconciling with their children. They considered their shunning as a sign of martyrdom for "Truth".

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1975 all over again!!!

by John Aquila in

wt study edition jan. 2015.

here is the bait:.

as the number of kingdom proclaimers increases and as we near the end of this system of things, there is an urgent need for more facilities.

kaik

Additional info from my mom about all this BS. My cousin told her that she has weak faith and she could find herself unprepared as the virgins in the Mat 25:1-13. So instead awaiting arrival of bridegroom, she would be laying somewhere on recovery room in rehab facility.

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1975 all over again!!!

by John Aquila in

wt study edition jan. 2015.

here is the bait:.

as the number of kingdom proclaimers increases and as we near the end of this system of things, there is an urgent need for more facilities.

kaik

Yeah, it is crazy cult. I had visited my mom last month and find out that she suppose to have hip surgery, but my cousins told her that she is wasting time for it because "A" is about to happen. My mom is in pain for a while so I was pushing her to see specialist. When I talked to her about the surgery, she told me she cancelled and she does not even have money post- surgery rehab, because she donated them in June/July on the convention. My cousins said to her, that she would miss a chance if "A" is happening and she will be recovering somewhere in the spa resort. So my mom cancelled all the doctor appointments. I spent entire day with social services to get her to the surgery and if all goes well, she would have one next month.

My cousins also initiated study with my niece and they keep pushing to her that is 101 years since Jesus rule, and she should get baptized in order to survive the storm. Last time I remember my cousins were crazies in the end stage of this world was in the 1989's. It was 70 years since 1919, and they would insist that "A" will be that year!

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The morning after I KILLED myself...

by Divergent in

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a very thought provoking poem.... .

the morning after i killed myself, i woke up.

i made myself breakfast in bed.

kaik

"Suicide for me is one of the most tragic events on the planet. Not just a waste of life but how could the person possibly not see that he/she would get over the problem eventually, that there are people who are concerned for them and will do everything possible to help? That's the real tragedy."

Suicide is issue that is very little debated, but it affects so many families. Many times, it solved permanently temporary issues. However, not all suicides are the same, there is also a deep cultural context (some societies are prone to high level suicides like East Asia, Eastern Europe, and Scandinavia). For many people it was a way to end pain/illness and leave a world with dignity. I had a good, close friend who chose this path. He had a renal disease that was causing him unbelievable pain and at the end he was disabled on dialysis machine. Before his suicide he wrote me very nice long letter, his farewell, and ended his life. His girlfriend told me that he was in so much pain that his suicide was liberation for him. He was no more suffering.

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I'm writing a novel!

by punkofnice in

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i'm up to about 30k words at the moment and still going strong.. i don't expect it'll ever get off the ground.....at least i'm going to try though.. i'm thinking of 6 months time and looking at the route of self publishing.

yes, i want to be a publisher.. it's very violent in places, has violent sexual scenes and very strong language.. it's everything the watchtower(r) said i should avoid.....i wonder if my authentic self has exploded into freedom?.

if you want more info or wish to read a snippet let me know.. i can't think of a title and have changed it several times, at the moment it's called 'boomshot.

kaik

I am in process writing my master's thesis. I got to 3500 words in the summer and I still have 5000 words to go on top of my presentation, graphics, tables, studies. I cannot imagine to write more than 10000 words.

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1975 all over again!!!

by John Aquila in

wt study edition jan. 2015.

here is the bait:.

as the number of kingdom proclaimers increases and as we near the end of this system of things, there is an urgent need for more facilities.

kaik

My cousins told my mom that the "A" is coming and will most likely happen this fall because it is 101 years when Jesus started to rule. My mom has surgery scheduled in October they told her not to go, because she may miss a chance to live in paradise, while she is recovering in hospital. I was a kid in 1975, and I remember when my JW aunt told as that we do not have to go to school because "A" is coming. 40 years later, she is dead.

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This sounds suspiciously like the actions of another religion we know of...

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/15/church-blacklists-103-year-old-granny-then-calls-the-cops-on-her.htmlchurch blacklists 103-year-old granny, then calls the cops on her.

genora hamm biggs had been a member of the union grove baptist church for 92 yearsuntil a new pastor banished her and tried to have her arrested over a clash about the style of a sermon.. a 103-year-old georgia woman was banished from her church for a sin the pastor cant forgiveshe disagreed with how he preached.. genora hamm biggs has attended union grove baptist church in elberton since she was 11 years old.

but last month, rev.

kaik

This happens all the time. Especially, if you get a new priest or preacher and old-timers are not happy. Generally, the congregation waits for the natural, biological way to deal with the issue, but sometimes the priest/congregation would eventually get tired of the old-timers and expel them out. In the link you had on the church, one person posted in the discussion that this old lady was disruptive and majority of the church goers agreed to have her removed from the congregation.