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  If your not baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit. was your baptism official

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  matt 28:19 "go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit,.

  i don't ever remember hearing at my baptism nor any other baptism of a jw.

  the person giving the baptism talk or person doing the dunking saying that i/we are baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit.. so i have come to the conclusion that my/our baptism's are not official.

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  Zoos

  Honesty: The JW baptism has been based on legalities since 1985 so the society doesn't incur liability when your relatives follow rules and regulations instead of following Jesus' example of love.

  What if you were baptized before 1985 - before the new baptismal questions? Would there be grounds for a lawsuit then? People keep saying that religions are protected from lawsuits stemming from doctrinal issues, but on the flipside, they say WT changed it's questions to protect itself legally. What gives?

  Goingthruthemotions, I base my baptism on what was in my heart at the time I was baptized. No other person or policy is involved. I knew what it meant to me and that's what it still means.
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  Watchtower Really Does Totally Take The Position of Jesus

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watchtower has said that jesus is not the mediator of anyone but for the anointed.

  then they tell you that they are jehovah's organization and that the flock should obey them.. basically, the watchtower corp. and it's governing body is taking the place of jesus as the mediator for people.

  christianity, even by it's name, focuses on making jesus known.

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  Zoos

  This is one of the many light bulb that went off AFTER I found my way out of the org. While still in, I never knew there was a teaching that Jesus only died for the annointed, and I considered myself a reasonably good student of all things Watchtower. Guess I wasn't as tuned in as I thought. Then I was gobsmacked when statements like this were brought to my attention:

  "... come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation" - w81, 11/15, p.21 par.18

  Great topic, OTWO
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  Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans as Antarctic Ice Melts

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in west antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the disintegration, two groups of scientists reported monday.. the finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable.

  the rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but sometime after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.. this is really happening, said thomas p. wagner, who runs nasas programs on polar ice and helped oversee some of the research.

  theres nothing to stop it now.

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  Zoos

  Those people from NASA don't know what they're talking about. Rush Limbaugh said so.
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  Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

  our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

  ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

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  Zoos

  This is an extraordinary example of a JW's trained synaptic response.

  Matthew 6:1-5 was read to set the tone of the subject matter; Making a display of one's gifts to God.

  Questions were asked:

  "Why do you write down and keep track of all your work, then turn it in to be recognized by men? "

  "Why do you report your hours, if not for recognition?"

  Statement made:

  "GOD is keeping track... let's look here, it says..."

  There can be no doubt the flavor of the conversation has been established and yet when this simple question is asked, "What happens if you don't turn in a time card at the end of the month?", the notion implied is so incomprehensible that the sister couldn't wrap her mind around it.

  "They would just call me and get my hours from me. Nothing would HAPPEN!"
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  Look! It was very good – or: Evil in the Animal Kingdom

  by TheOldHippie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have fed a number of birds regularly thru winter, and among the species were some doves.

  this spring, two of them took a liking for each other and teamed up.

  for a couple of weeks, extensive construction work was jointly done and resulted in a nice little nest, undoubtedly a cosy home for the small family which expected to multiply.

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  And so goes the circle of life.

  Just like God designed it.
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  Missing my Mom

  by exwhyzee in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  she and my dad brought us to the u.s. from ireland in hopes of giving the 4 of us kids a better life with more opportunities.. mom went to school in her village where her mother (my grandmother) was the teacher and the bible was part of the curriculum.

  they even used the name jehovah.

  her father was a plymouth brethern (think amish or quaker) who was shunned for the rest of his life for marrying my grandmother who wasn't "in the lord"...she belonged to church of ireland.. when the witnesses came to the door after we arrived in the u.s, mom was a shoe-in candidate for their recruitment.

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  That's a great tribute to mom and dad. Sorry you're feeling down.

  "Keep your pecker up!"
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  Do you still keep in touch with the Witnesses?

  by Iamallcool in

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  Zoos

  Friendships require something in common. There's nothing back there for me to pursue.
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  sasquatch

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
  2. humour

  had a long conversation with one of our local mount shasta denizens about sasquatch.

  he says he has heard sasquatch, but hasn't seen one.

  says there is a law in oregon against shooting sasquatch, $500 fine and a year in jail.

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  Zoos

  This little guy, who looks incredibly like Humpty-Dumpty, seems to be carrying on an intelligent conversation and making an interesting point or two, then suddenly we're in outer space.

  Your friend would make a wonderful Jehovah's Witness. You should offer him a bible study.
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  Million Now Living Will Never Die! - Rutherford could still be right

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  rutherford began the millions campaign in 1918. new light suggests that he was obviously talking about babies who were born that year and now, in 2014 they would only be 96 years old.. .

  i was looking through a census bureau report on people aged 90+ in the united states 2006-2008, with projections to the year 2050. according to the chart provided there are about 2 million people just in the united states that are over 90 years old.

  we could conservatively cut that number in half to reach the 96 year-olds and then add in the rest of the world's figures.. .

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  Zoos

  Rutherford began the Millions campaign in 1918. New light suggests that he was obviously talking about babies who were born that year and now, in 2014 they would only be 96 years old.

  I was looking through a Census Bureau report on people aged 90+ in the United States 2006-2008, with projections to the year 2050. According to the chart provided there are about 2 million people just in the United States that are over 90 years old. We could conservatively cut that number in half to reach the 96 year-olds and then add in the rest of the world's figures.

  

  By God, Rutherford really DID know what he was talking about. Since this old system couldn't possibly last another year, millions then living in 1918 will never die - just like old Joe prophesied!

  
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  How did HQ handle the increase of new JWs leading up to 1975?

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this new donation arrangement under the pretense that so many new halls are needed to accommodate the worldwide increase has me wondering.

  the numbers in the current annual reports don't show anywhere near the increase as there was leading up to the 1975 debacle.

  so how did the gb of the time handle a genuine need for more kingdom halls?.

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  Still Totally ADD: It was not in the cards to build new Kingdom Halls. After all the big A was coming, why do we need to build anything?

  That makes sense. And all the tales of makeshift, leased housing for congregants fits the puzzle.

  Thanks for all the responses.

  Vidiot: They don't need "so many new halls", and in fact, the letter doesn't actually say that; it simply says the WTS needs money for thousands of "Kingdom Hall projects".

  Slick.