are they revered like the pope is to catholics??
back in the 1960s , fred franz and n.h knorr were the only men that counted.
after franz died, the governing body became more of an idolized entity.
I'd say it depends on how deeply indoctrinated a jw that one really is! I don't know too many truly devout jw's anymore. I truly believe that the constant reminder from the borg that the end is sooooooooooooon and yet nothing has ever really changed has stunted the belief system of jw's. They repeat the bull shit and hope that the shit will happen---------but they don't really believe that it will happen!
just saying!
it's been 12 years since i submitted my resignation letter, and stopped playing by their rules.. in a spurt of manic rationality, i blew up the bridge, sky high.
knowing that the diseased organ would need to be forever removed, away from anything remotely functional in my mind, body, and soul.
lest i be tempted to return.... so, i left.
Not going back after nearly 60 years in! The whole enchilada of being a jw, pioneer, elder, rbc construction overseer, assembly and convention speaker and father of 4 great kids! It's a fu*king shame that it took me so long!
Freedom is great at any age!
just saying!
a little background first.
my first father- in-law, levi peterson was born in 1889. he personally knew rutherford.
he started the newark, ny congregation.
mrquika day agoA little background first. My first father- in-law, Levi Peterson was born in 1889. He personally knew Rutherford.
Was your father-in-law a drunk too?
just asking!
humans are basically social animals.
see most any isolated mammal, whether in a zoo or even an outcast of its pride and you'll see one mentally disturbed creature.
maybe, after this pandemic has faded and humans are able to interact once more, some jw's might think twice before being so quick to shun.
Self isolating is healthy under the current circumstances. Df'ing is never healthy under any circumstances!
just saying!
i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.
2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.
4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.
The absolute bullshit that the wt and other religions put out about God is Love is absurd! The silly illustrations that they use by comparing god to a loving human father are ridiculously stupid!
What loving human father would allow his children to suffer the atrocities that humans suffer if he had the ability to stop such suffering? NONE!!!
To prove a point??
Gaslighting at it's finest!
just saying!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.
the pandemic has put a stop to the activities of one of the nation’s most visible religious groups, jehovah’s witnesses.. read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.
"and this good news of the kingdom will be preached"-----------------except when it won't!
just saying!
scholars generally agree that it was written between the 7th and 4th centuries bce, with the 6th century bce as the most likely period for various reasons.
the book of job .. so according to jw`s about 6,000 years ago satan rebelled against jehovah god ,did jehovah disown him there and then shunning him ?.
apparently not as we can read from the book of job centuries later that satan could still come and go freely before the throne of jehovah in heaven .job 1: 6. and apparently he could still do this for centuries later ,that is coming to and fro before jehovah because according to the jw religion he wasn`t cast out of heaven for another 2,000 years until the 20th century .. now in the case of jesus much of what is said about jehovah and satan also applies to jesus before he came to earth.. but even when he was on earth he didn`t shun satan either in fact he allowed satan to lead him around according to the bible account.luke 4:13 so the devil having concluded all the temptations retired from him until another convenient time .so it wasn`t jesus calling the shots here it was satan .. mark 1: 13 he ,jesus, also shared 40 days in the wilderness with satan letting him tempt him .. so their was no way either jehovah or jesus ever shunned satan the devil according to the bible writings.. and when jesus ascended to heaven after his sacrifice he along with his father jehovah still had association with satan the devil until he was cast out of heaven 2,000 years later ,according to the jw`s..
DF'ing is an act of love------don't ya know! It started with the control freak-----Rutherford! And of course, it's only about loyalty to an organization--has nothing to do with god!
just saying!
i had a patient admitted from a skilled nursing facility/rehab that is an active jw.
the patient had covid-19 as did most of the patients at that facility.
typically the local elders are all involved in these admissions but there is a strict no visitor policy which includes clergy.
Heard that some jws died due to covid
There was a meeting on Friday between Bethel and COs, then COs passed the info to COBEs, and COBEs to elders, and then elders to publishers....the count of JWs who have died of COVID-19 in the US, as of Friday 4/17, is 250. I don't know the count for the entire world.
No way! You mean to tell me that jehober the god that really cares for his sheep would let some of them die during this Satanic pandemic! Can't be true!
just saying!
I really fucked up and gave up toooooo many years of living! Baptized at 12 left when I was 62. Then I checked out!
just saying!
this is "return to jehovah video" from this weeks meeting.
the use fear to gain more people back in the truth?
what are your thoughts?
Gorbatchov2 days ago
I think this video was used at the 2016 convention and now used again.
I was an elder back in the early 70's. We had a 'campaign' to go out and gather the 'lost sheep' before 1975. It was the same bullshit message 45 years ago and it was urgent!
Wash- Rinse-Recycle!
just saying!
