It's really hard to make sense of, or to understand mythology. It doesn't have to make sense because it's fantasy.
just saying!
the last couple years i have been really getting into watching these videos called the bible protect.
there is no real dogmatic axe to grind.
just simple 10 -15 min videos on the individual books of the bible and kind of how it’s all connected together.
It's really hard to make sense of, or to understand mythology. It doesn't have to make sense because it's fantasy.
just saying!
when i was a kid they implied that all animals and humans were vegetarian before the flood but i don’t know the scriptures they used, anyone know?
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Before the "flood", jehober had a prohibition on animals eating blood, after the "flood" jehober changed his/hers/its mind and blood was no longer "sacred" for animals. jehober communicated with the animals in mysterious ways!
just saying!
the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
Of course all of your comments are assuming that the bible is true, it's the actual word of a god, the god that no one has heard from for thousands of years, the god that has "patiently" allowed horrific human pain and suffering!
just saying!
i appreciate all my friends who stop to read what i write and post.
you help me more than you know simply by being there as a sense of 'family of friends' for me to talk to and 'share' thoughts with.i guess if i didn't have stories left to tell or people to listen, i could pack it in and join elon musk in a colony on mars.january 15, 2020. .
which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.everywhere you found telephone booths!
Happy BD Terry.
I'll be 73 in March and have pretty much lived a close copy of your life in many ways. I was a young zealot jw, pioneered out of high school, went to "prison" during the Viet war, young elder at 25 yo. I've seen your world and it was pretty cool. Growing up in the 60's in Southern California, Huntington Beach area was a blast. Got married at 19 and am still with my wife of 53 years. Wife is still a captive of the wt but she knows it's a bunch of bs as I've been able to 'witness' to her about shit she never knew about jw's.
Anyway, I always enjoy your posts and hope someday to meet you in person!
just saying!
we were supposed to be dedicated unconditionally to jehovah god.
we were willing to be persecuted to the death if need be.
if it came to taking a blood transfusion or dying, we were loyal to jehovah and would be a martyr for god.
And jw;s have the balls to think that Muslim suicide bombers are nuts!
just saying!
remember those pesky scriptures about 'put faith in jesus and you will be saved' & 'getting baptized without delay'?
well, in this time of the end ™ we know better, and the latest march 2020 study edition wt sums it all up:.
before you can get baptized, there are a few other things you need to do.
The wt will soon be adding psychiatric screening after the 100 questions are answered satisfactorily. The screening will weed out those who think they may one day want to be on the ever increasing 144,000 "class".
just saying!
when the doctrine regarding 1935 being the close of the calling was done away with in 2007, it was not unexpected to see the number rise.
over the next few years it went from around 8,500 to 10,500. this seemed to indicate that there were a couple of thousand people that may have felt they had the calling all along, but too shy to profess it.
for the 30 year period between the mid 1978 and 2007, parktakers had barely dropped.
i think jehober changed the number from 144,000 to a much higher number. But since he hasn't updated his "holy word" for over 2,000 years. we haven't got the new number. It's coming sooooooooooon!
just saying!
the co got on his hind legs for the public talk and repeated twice "tolerance promotes division".
then backed it up by saying that if one group march for some right, another group will march for the opposite.. so jws are intolerant and proud of it.
f@@@k me sideways.. may explain that the baptism tally was 0..
The good news is that zero became members of the now non spirit directed organization!
just saying!
i was on the phone with a long-time friend from my original congregation north of new york city and she told me that the 'shit hit the fan' when a brother (long-time elder i know well) got remarried about 6 weeks after his wife died.. he was about 60 and his new wife (a pioneer that i also know) was about 50 and had never been married.. it became a huge issue when the co came.
due to all the talk and chatter in the congregation, he even included in one of his talks without naming names, that marriage is something sacred and that when and how people get married is a personal matter as long as it conforms to bible standards.. anyway, it shut everybody up.
any similar experiences in your current/former congregations?.
Everyone has an opinion about this but it's really no one else's business when a person remarries. However, it is fairly difficult to imagine both properly grieving your loved one and falling in love with another person within 6 weeks!
just saying!
as an obedient little jw at age 20, i was serving time in federal prison in the late 60's, and the 40 brothers inside seagoville prison decided to stage our own assembly.i was the music servant.
(we didn't have elders back then.
)the theme of the assembly mimicked the free world assemblies being held outside.long story short:i composed (what i think and everyone else thought was) a very good song titled:following the fine shepherd as the end draws near.we rehearsed it (bros who had instruments) and the consensus revealed it was a winner._____excerpt:"jehovah god above, we owe you all our love; you are our shepherd and we follow you.though satan demands, that we must compromise; we'd sooner face death than be wrong in your eyes.now and forevermore, we fear not satan's roar;you are our shepherd and we follow you.
Hi Terry,
Not sure how you were treated during your incarceration, but the bro's in Safford were given a wide berth and lots of latitude. It wasn't too bad but still it was prison, separated from family. I know of about 8 of the guys that "lost" their wives while in prison. Got married young and those good little jw girls couldn't go without it while their young husbands ":stood tall" for jehober!
just saying!