Posts by Gizmo

Like just 10% of the population you are a HELPER WHO FINDS MISSING CHILDREN OVER THE INTERNET (SICF). You are very tentative in the world and introverted with people--which means you are the shy and silent type. Hence the Internet. But behind your reserved exterior lies a dedicated person with a passion for the concrete truth who wants to, in his heart of hearts, help find missing children. God bless you.

This is me to a tee!

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Silentlambs PRESS RELEASE - Distribute Freely

by abbagail in

from: "silentlambs" [email protected].

date: tue, 7 jan 2003 14:21:28 -0600. to: [email protected].

subject: press release-distribute freely.

Gizmo

Comment from 1/97 elder letter:
There are 17 girls that have accused Dan Fitzwater of child molesting. Five are from Yerington, the rest from other states.

Grits anyway you can post the above letter?

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Hypothetical Question on Adultery

by yrs2long in

a sister arrives home early to find her husband in bed having sex with a woman unknown to her.

the sister, although lacking any evidence, reports the matter to the elders, who confront the husband.

the husband denies any fornication.

Gizmo

Is the marriage vow considered broken by Jehovah?

Absolutely!

Understandably, it will require two witnesses to get the elders to act against the brother. However, given that the woman was witness to the event, SHE knows that adultery has taken place. According to WT doctrine, is the sister scripturally free to divorce and remarry?

Scriptually definately! In the Elders eyes maybe not, but who cares what they think, you don't worry about them you worry what God thinks!

Also, if the brothers don't accept the woman's word as sufficient for divorce and the woman continues to cohabit, would she be required and/or can she be disciplined by the brothers for failing from that point to render the marriage due?

If the Husband reports it, she can be counseled. Staying with the partner may be considered by the elders not only as an indication that the sister was lying about the adultery, but if later found that in fact she was telling the truth about the adultery, as an act of forgiving the husband on the part of the wife. A bit of a catch 22.

Also, consider if the sister, unable to divorce, remains with the fornicating husband and does have sex with him. If the brother later feels remorse and confesses to the brothers about the adultery, does the sister's sexual acquiescence constitute forgiveness on her part due to her having had sex when she KNEW he had fornicated?

See above but in short Yes.

Has any of this been discussed at length in any of the society's literature? Does anyone know of any similar situations?

There would be many articles on this very subject, in watchtowers and I believe from memory the Family Book talks about it some.

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Just wondering if anyone has seen this?

by Gizmo in

i was just wondering if any of you have seen this?

i'm sure a lot that have been around for a while know about it...but thought i'd post it for the newer people here...there are some very interseting links here associated with the subject of child abuse.

http://www.jw-media.org/releases/default.htm?content=/vnr/2122827332/716353.pdf.

Gizmo

Thanks trotafox,

Seems it won't allow me to edit the link so if you type "child abuse" in the Search Box you'll go to the media page.

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"2008" End of this system...??

by breeze in

my theory

maybe the org was right with all of their predictions about the timeline of 607bc 1914?

except for the small difference, the time that jesus spent on the earth was exempt from the calculations?

Gizmo

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If You Weren't A Witness, What Would You Be Today?

by minimus in

jw
friends

many of us are or were witnesses because we were born into the religion.

others became witnesses because they really thought it was the truth.

so many wish that they never had a jehovah's witness come to their door or their parents' door.

Gizmo

Well adjusted,

a lot more social,

and darn brilliant.

(well maybe not the last one)

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The Book of Daniel

by SwedishChef in

the following was written by professor johseph d. wilson, d. d., and is about the prophecies and criticism of the book of daniel.

it was published in the four volume book series called "the fundamentals.".

modern objections to the book of daniel were started by german scholars who were prejudiced against the supernatural.

Gizmo

One of my all time favorite characters on the Muppets was the Swedish Chef, so every time The SC here writes anything, the following is what I'm hearing...

The following must be read as the Swedish Chef on the muppets would speak!

Th' mesiah in th' vahse was th' high priess (anointed) who was killed by Antiochus three years af'er th' rededicashun." It's gittin' purdy deep in hyar. Better git th' shovels out. An' ah thougt th' whole "Daniel = poet" thin' thet seedy brought up was weak. Shet mah mouth! Th' Jews knowed who Messiah was a-gonna be. Isaiah 9:6 "Fo' unto us a chile is born an' raised, unto us a son is given: an' th' govment shall be upon his sh'der: an' his name shall be called Wonnerful, Counsello', Th' mighty God, Th' evahlastin' Pappy, Th' Prince of Peace." --This hyar is th' Messiah Also, ah hardly reckon thet a "high priest"'d be called the dawgoned-est holy in Dan 9:24. ah cain't believe varmints ackaully buy whut yo' jest said, pete. It's a true sign of desperashun on th' part of th' critics.

ROFLMAO...very hard to take him seriously...LOL

Analysis of Religions & why it happens

by Gizmo in

shit happens... .

taoism: shit happens.

confucianism: confucius say, "shit happens.

Gizmo

Shit happens...

Always funny.

Taoism: Shit happens.

Confucianism: Confucius say, "Shit happens."

Buddhism: If shit happens, it isn't really shit.

Zen Buddhism: What is the sound of shit happening?

Hinduism: This shit happened before.

Mormonism: This shit is going to happen again.

Islam: If shit happens, it is the Will of Allah.

Stoicism: This shit is its own reward.

Protestantism: Let this shit happen to someone else.

Calvinism: Shit happens because you don't work hard enough.

Pentecostalism: In Jesus' name, heal this shit!

Catholicism: Shit happens because you deserve it.

Judaism: Why does this shit always happen to us?

Zoroastrianism: Shit happens half the time.

Marxism: This shit is going to hit the fan.

Atheism: No shit.

Existentialism: Shit does not happen, shit is.

Agnosticism: What is this shit?

Nihilism: Who gives a shit?

Deconstruction: Shit happens in hegemonic meta-narratives.

Christian Science: Shit is in your mind.

Moonies: Only happy shit really happens.

Jehovah's Witnesses: Let us in your house and we will explain why shit happens!

Scientology: Shit happens on page 152 of Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard

Hare Krishna: Shit happens, Rama Rama.

Hedonism: There's nothing like a good shit happening.

Rastafarianism :Let's smoke this shit.

Satanism: I call the darkest shit on you.