Cedars:
" The only thing that would surprise me would be if they introduced reforms for the better. Everything else is just self-preservation, maintaining longevity, and increasing control."
How true, how true.
Data-dog, you're spot on too!
i heard a rumour today to the effect that there is a new gb member in his late twenties/early thirties.
i stress that this is unsubtantiated and requires confirmation or quashing.. can anyone confirm or definately deny it?.
Cedars:
" The only thing that would surprise me would be if they introduced reforms for the better. Everything else is just self-preservation, maintaining longevity, and increasing control."
How true, how true.
Data-dog, you're spot on too!
judgment day must wait: jehovah's witnesses- a sect between idealism and deceit [paperback]poul bregninge (author)publication date: july 16, 2013fear of the apocalypse that never comes!
it is what holds a jehovah's witness power-bound by the watch tower society in brooklyn.
armageddon is always just a little way around the corner.. .
Scroll down to 'Available Now' for some more info on the author.
i'm going to share with you all a reply i got from a witnesses after i sent an article from nbc news regarding the conti sex abuse case.
in many ways i think it's quite telling and revealing into the mind of a dubbie.
this is the actuall reply .
"because the organisation has always been transparent! " HA-HA-HA-HA!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvohungyjie.
he brings up so many good points.
unfortunately, there seem to be allot of ignoramuses out there in youtube land..
So would someone please tell me (us, likely since others may be wondering) just who this "Brother Arp" is?
Thanks, and thanks Londo for the share.
is there a comprehensive list of jw or bible student spin off groups?
no, i'm not going to join, just curious..
Julia,
That bit of info is interesting. Would you please provide the reference so that I can follow up on it?
Thanks.
i received the following explanation in favor of the date of 607 bce.
accepted comments on the points at issue.. .
conclusion.
Why not just get a copy of Carl Olaf Jonsson's book and read it for yourself? All the important material is covered there.
Just curious myself, O Curioso, who is this person who put together the apology you cut-and-pasted/scanned?
so it used to be that all dramas were ot.
period, that was it.. then they started incorporating a "modern day" application of the ot drama where actors in the present day reflected on the story.. then they started using some highly fictionalized nt characters in dramas (never jesus of course).
in the past few years we've been getting more "modern dramas", just about people in the present dealing with their "problems".
BOC:
Are the words below b/c they are now expecting the "wild beast" to come down on them due to their child abuse policies?
" The last drama opens with the father turning on the TV to see that the government is "cracking down" on jehovahs witnesses in our "free" country - brings to mind "the nations" turning on "jehovahs people" before (or is it during? Or after?) the Great Trib."
In other words, are they trying to prepare the R&F for what they now see as likely (or even inevitable?)—that the govt. IS going to crack down on them b/c of their child abuse policies? Are they even now believing that this act would precipitate Armageddon??
Opinions here, please...
so here you are...sitting with a couple of elders at judicial meeting, and you're asked the following question:.
"do you still believe that the fds is the channel that jehovah is using"?.
now is it possible to answer 'no' without being df, or how would you answer that question?.
The elders have been trained to distinguish between outright "rebellion," saying the FDS is/are not God's sole mouthpiece, and those who have doubts (on the basis of the passage "continue to show mercy to those who have doubts"). You could always just say' "I'm not sure any more. I have some doubts. I guess I let myself become spritually weak." Playing the doubter-weakness card can buy you some time, at least.
an elderly brother came up to me the other day and said: "you are a true christian"!
i asked him what he meant by that and he said because i "really care about the older ones in the congregation".
he went on to say that the elders and pioneers are so busy, they have to "get their time in the field service", no time left to check on the the older ones.
I have enjoyed your insights very much. Thanks for sharing them. I'm looking forward to more.
as the information age is apon us and it doesn't take that much information to easily prove this new light by the governing body granting them absolute loyalty and power is a blatant power grab by a bunch of over the hill ego maniacs i see a revolt in the making..
Right on baltar447 and Ding!!