Topics Started by Gig
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The power of an apology
by Gig ini regret that because i don't have my copy of crisis of conscience here i can't complete this post, but someone with a copy please assist me...ray quoted an apology from the worldwide church of god after the passing of their "leader" herbert armstrong.
it really struck me as courageous, responsible, and ever so appropriate given that herb's teachings often were the same in nature as the wts's.
if memory serves it's on page 271 or 272, if not you'll find only one reference to the worldwide church of god in the index.
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What's with such young "elders"?
by Gig inhow can the wts consider an unmarried man in his mid-twenties qualified to be an elder?
clearly the "theocratic" process of election by the holy spirit is not what's happening.
ever known any (too) young elders?
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Another possibility?
by Gig ini found myself very intrigued reading a recent thread.
i cannot remember the poster but it was also on randy's freeminds site.
it was an ambitious effort to methodically show the wt bias in their wt mag "bible" lessons.
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Please help on quotes
by Gig ini remember reading a wt quote that says something about finding footprints that wander all over and don't seem to be heading in any particular direction...and asks would you follow.
can any of you help me find this one and any/all others where the wt condemns their own course.
those that ridicule false teachings and mistakes/corrections of other religions that they themselves have done.. and secondly, any/all pure lies that are quick and easy for anyone to see.
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A day in the life of the WTS
by Gig instill i try to find a way to talk with my jw friend about the wts.
pretty much every conversation, at least so far, has ended similarly...with my friend falling back on "classic" wt defenses.
one of which i single out today...the insistence that they are the one true religion because they are the only ones who go "house to house".
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Why can't you see it?
by Gig init's very hard trying to help a jw see the truth, and just as hard it seems to describe that difficulty.
how about this, you all remember those computer generated images that, at a glance, looked like a random set of dots or colors, no patterns or pictures.
you had to get your eyes to focus differently and adjust to the "hidden" image.
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Please offer your thoughts...
by Gig inmore than once in my meetings/studies with jw's they have called attention to daniel 11:35.... "some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.
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i'm sure you can see how the jw's use this verse, and to keep the table open i'll withold my perspective, but please offer your thoughts.
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Almost a copy?
by Gig indo i understand correctly that the wts secured the copyright to jb rotherham's bible translation and that is what they copied for their nwt?
franz knew some hebrew, and some greek, but in my guesstimation nowhere near enough to produce the nwt.
so is this where it basically came from... copied then changed to include their doctrinally biased alterations?.
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Competitive Holy Spirit
by Gig ini just read david reed's "whither the watchtower", written in...umm, about 93 i think, about the necessary changes the wts faced at the time.
it's a good read if you haven't already.. i wanted to ask all of you which of their major teachings will be the next to change.
go ahead and play prophet, nobody will hold you to it, at least not like we're going to hold the wts to it.. i'm thinking the 144,000 (1935) or jesus as michael.
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C of C & ISOCF
by Gig inquestion for all of you that have read both of ray's books, how much redundancy (for lack of a better word) is there?
can it be said that they are two separate and equally valuable books or does isocf just add to c of c?
how would you describe the theme of both, or possibly contrast them?.