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  Are we giving the Watchtower more power than it deserves?

  by willowstreet in

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  just recently, npy and myself were at a party and the subject came up as to how we knew six.

  i found myself hesitate to explain that our connection was that we had all been jehovah's witnesses.. after i told them...it was no big deal.

  they all explained how they had been penecostal and catholic and they had their abusive stories to tell... we were all the same.. .

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  Sometimes I feel like the people who were raised a Jehovah's Witness feel like their plight is worse than those who came in on their own.

  I don't necessarilly agree with this.

  The person who came in later in life could say....if so inclined

  It wasn't hard for you to not celebrate Christmas because you never experienced it, I did.

  It wasn't hard for you to quit your dream job, you never had one., I did.

  You never had to choose "the truth" over your family, I did.

  You never had to deny that you loved your country...you never loved it in the first place....I did.

  My point is.....pain is pain, the people who sacrificed choosing to come in and the people who were raised in it have no more legitimate pain over the other.

  I chose to come in, and lost friends when I came in, lost friends when I left...lost my family and traditions for eighteen years when chose to be a witness, Just because I wasn't raised a witness doesn't mean I didn't hurt and it doesn't mean I didn't loose people.

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  Are we giving the Watchtower more power than it deserves?

  by willowstreet in

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  just recently, npy and myself were at a party and the subject came up as to how we knew six.

  i found myself hesitate to explain that our connection was that we had all been jehovah's witnesses.. after i told them...it was no big deal.

  they all explained how they had been penecostal and catholic and they had their abusive stories to tell... we were all the same.. .

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  willowstreet

  Just recently, NPY and myself were at a party and the subject came up as to how we knew Six. I found myself hesitate to explain that our connection was that we had all been Jehovah's Witnesses.

  After I told them...it was no big deal. They all explained how they had been Penecostal and Catholic and they had their abusive stories to tell..

  We were all the same.

  The point is...I think we make a bigger deal of our past affiliation than it deserves to be.

  Its kinda narcisistic really. We are not special because we are ex witnesses, remember, we deluded ourselves into thinking we were something special while we were in the organization. Could we be doing the same thing...but this time because we are ex witnesses?.

  Maybe its all in our head?

  Why give it more authority and power, unless we believe it to be somehting that it is not.

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  darn it!

  by willowstreet in

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  i remember my best friend when i was a witness was completly obsessed with words, such as darn, shoot, heck, etc..... i remember her telling her daughter not to say "birth day" but call it "birth date".

  she wouldn't say, "christmas break' but would call it "winter break".

  she would lie to get a free hotel night, but she would not say "darn"...... so petty and hypocritical.. did anyone else know witnesses that went over board with words like my friend?.

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  I remember my best friend when I was a witness was completly obsessed with words, such as darn, shoot, heck, etc....

  I remember her telling her daughter not to say "birth day" but call it "birth date"

  She wouldn't say, "Christmas Break' but would call it "Winter Break"

  She would lie to get a free hotel night, but she would not say "darn"...... so petty and hypocritical.

  Did anyone else know witnesses that went over board with words like my friend?

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  we are moving to Texas....

  by Eyebrow2 in

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  all the way from cow hampshire....my husband is from the fort worth area, so we won't be totally lost.

  my 12 year old son is really nervous about school.

  any suggestions?

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  Eyebow,

  I live in McKinney which is about five minutes north of Plano. I have a teenager here and I have a nephhew who lives in Plano.

  First of all, there is a lot of money in Plano. If you are moving to the West side that is considered the wealthiest area. There is a lot of pressure on the kids to have stuff. Some of the kids drive Hummers, BMW's, etc...Everyone has a mansion of a house.

  The East side is not that way, they actually have some very poor areas on the east side.

  There are three high schools in Plano...Plano West, Plano East and simply Plano High School, I think Plano High School in somewhat in the middle.

  Sports are a huge thing down here, especially football, in fact the Plano schools are big rivals against one another.

  I know that heroin is a problem in the Plano school district, mostly because of lots of money and bored kids. If you keep your son busy with sports, maybe that would be a protection.

  I love the summers here, they are hot, but it is green and pretty and if you have a pool and a air conditioner you'll be just fine.

  The winters are depressing, even though it doesn't get that cold, it gets grey. The trees are grey, they grass is grey, the sky is grey. Not a flower to be found.

  There is a lot of shopping, watching football, eating out, and in the summer, go to the lake.

  And yes, I agree with the poster above, go to the state fair of texas!!!!

  Ft. Worth has become a nice little city, so much nicer than Dallas. It didnt' used to be that way, Dallas was the cool city and Ft. Worth was a cow town. Obviously they have some pretty savey city planners in Ft. Worth because it keeps getting better. The museums, theatres, festivals, night life...really is fun.

  Dallas is dead.

  I champoroned a high school dance last night and I am trying to remember the boys clothes, it does seem like the boys hair cuts are getting longer...but that is all I can recall. I know they do that nasty dance that I can't stand. Where the girls turn around and ....well, I can't describe it, its horrible. I can't believe they dance that way. And the school allows it.

  Anyway, I love Texas, I hope you are happy.

  willowstreet
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  Unbelievable experiences at assemblies or conventions

  by Dimples in

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  what experience at an assembly or convention caused you to raise your eyebrows in disbelief?.

  one that comes to mind is a 5 year old conducting several bible studies.

  wasn't it hard enough for an adult to get a bible study?

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  I remember at some conventions the sisters bathrooms had the mirrors covered with paper.

  ....they didn't want us primping, I guess....weird.
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  What's the most hypocritical thing(s) you've ever seen a JW do?

  by Steve Lowry in

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  up high on my list has to be when a jw co-worker named john fitzgerald tore into me one morning (when i was coming in late for work) for grabbing a quick piece of cake from the lunch room.

  turns out, someone in this small little office had brought in the remainder of their birthday cake for folks at work to finish up eating.

  john was older than i and a ministerial servant (ooh) and felt it his responsibility to keep me on the straight and narrow.

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  Most hypocritical thing.....ever.

  My husband was having an affair..(ministerial servant) and counting the time he was witnessing to her.
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  official website re: shunning family members?

  by willowstreet in

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  i am trying to help a df'd friend who is being shunned by her family.. i had told her about the frequently asked questions on the official website of jw's, that it had written that the watchtower does not shun family members.. having a hard time finding that...didn't it used to be there?

  have they changed ?

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  Hello,

  I am trying to help a DF'd friend who is being shunned by her family.

  I had told her about the frequently asked questions on the official website of JW's, that it had written that the Watchtower does not shun family members.

  Having a hard time finding that...didn't it used to be there? Have they changed ?

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  YAY WHOOHOO I did it I Graduated!!!!!

  by VeniceIT in

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  ok i know i haven't been around here much lately but i have been rather busy, kinda sorta.

  well i have officially graduated from the florida college of natural health and have applied for my license to become an esthetician!!!!

  i'm soo excited.

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  Congratulations!

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  What did you give up that you wish you hadn't?

  by VioletAnai in

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  when i started studying again, i got the guilts and threw out lots of stuff.

  over 200 cd's - goth, punk, industrial, rock, pop, classical, you name it, i threw it.

  i got rid of my witchcraft books, astrology books, crystal ball, tarot cards, even my damn nintendo.

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  I gave up my friends that I had been raised with since grade school... Or shall I say I shunned them for being "worldly".

  We were also on a softball league together for many years...gave that up too.

  I regret hurting my frineds, but they have forgiven me.
  Just need to pick up a glove and ball now.
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  Average age of apostates survey.

  by sleepy in

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  i thought it might be a good idea to find out at what age or after how long we descided to leave the watchtower.. prehaps we my find a patern in it which we could use .. i think what we need to know are ,.

  1.age you left the watchtower.

  (or age you found out it was wrong).

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  1. 30 (started having doubts)

  2. 21 (babtized)

  3. converted