Posts by Tameria2001

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

Tameria2001

@steve2, this is exactly why I'm asking about it now, so as not to royally screw things up.

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What would be just enough so they can guard themselves as they grow up?

by Tameria2001 in

i wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under.

three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born.

so i still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things.

I wasn't sure which topic to ask this question under. Three days ago my very first grandbaby, a boy was born. So I still have time to think about stuff, and not royally screw up things. His mother is an atheist, and his father (my son) has no interest in religion what so ever. I left the JWs just before he started Kindergarten, but he still has just enough knowledge to know that the JWs are nothing but bad news. I already know that they are not going to teach him anything as far a religion is concerned. With me and my husband, we don't do religion either. We have tried other religions and churches in the past but found them all to have their own agendas.

I know that the JWs teach their kids at a very young age, to try to lure their classmates into thinking that the JWs are the way to go, and this is what I want to protect my grandson from. I figured I would keep it a very simple, you know maybe talk to him here and there just a little, without sounding like I'm pushing anything on him. I just want him to be prepared for when the time comes that even in Kindergarten, that he can possibly get those little JWs to doubt their own faith. But for sure, not to be lured in by their lies.

I know I want to teach him some basic bible stories, like Adam and Eve, Noah. Moses, Jesus and a few other of the historical people, without getting into all the gore that gave me horrible nightmares I suffered as a child. This way when they bring up this stuff, he can tell them, "Oh yeah, I already know that stuff." or something like that.

I've already told his mother what JW relatives love to do, and that is to send their relatives who are not JW literature, especially the children; this way she can guard her new son against their influences.

Do you have any recommendations for good books that keep things very light-hearted or just any suggestions in general?

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When did the Watchtower start the shunning?

by Tameria2001 in

my husband and i were talking about the shunning part that the jws do?

where can i find more accurate information on this subject?

i am mainly trying to learn when the whole practice started, and stuff like that.

Tameria2001

My husband and I were talking about the shunning part that the JWs do? Where can I find more accurate information on this subject? I am mainly trying to learn when the whole practice started, and stuff like that. Whenever I search online for this information, Google keeps directing me back to the JW org site, and I really don't trust what comes out of their mouths. They have been very notorious about changing their history and trying to say oh we never said that. Case in point the 1914 generation teaching.

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Belief in God

by jdash in

when did you guys start to doubt your faith in god?'.

what made you doubt your faith in god?.

thanks !.

Tameria2001

When did you guys start to doubt your faith in God?'
What made you doubt your faith in God?

I don't think I have ever lost faith in God, but when it comes to religion this a whole different thing altogether. My husband and I officially left the JWs back in 2001, dissociated ourselves by sending in a letter informing them of our decision to leave. I had many reasons for leaving that cult.

I was only involved in it because when I was a child they lied to mom. They told her that in the fall of 1975 she would once again be reunited with her baby girl that had just died only a year before. My sister was only 6. I can't even tell you the number of times I waited for her to come back into my life, I was only a year younger than her. After all, I fully believed what my mother had told me....she wouldn't lie to me, would she, no she never would. She told me that Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy were lies that parents told their kids, so why would she lie to me about my sister.

I have mixed feeling about putting all those doubts aside and getting fully involved with that cult. On one hand, if I had, I would not have met my husband, had my children, and my brand new grandbaby, and I can never picture my life without them, even if that means not having those TOXIC JWs out of my life. My thought about the Watchtower is that they made me who I am today, and I won't ever be fooled by them or someone like them. And I passed that knowledge on to my kids. If it means they won't have to suffer at the hands of the Watchtower cult it was worth it. Sorry I sort of went down a different thought than what I had originally.

I brought that up and told the elders that the Watchtower had shown themselves time and time again to be nothing but a bunch of false prophets. After that, I was jumping around from church to church trying to find a "replacement". One good thing did come out of it, a couple of different pastors, one was even a former JW elder, helped me in getting about 75% of the Watchtower crap out of my head, the rest took quite a few years later.

My thought about religion, in general, is that I consider them all cults, and something mostly to be avoided, especially these "Chrisitan" religions. Once in a while, you might find that one who is actually trying to do what is right, but they are very far and few in between. Most of them are just out there to control and take people's hard earn money, and after a while, they all had the same feel as what the Watchtower had done to me, and something I refused to ever allow to happen to me to ever happen again.

I'm just thankful I got out of it when my children were still very young, and that they eventually became young adults with their own independent thoughts and opinions on this subject, and not influenced with the Watchtower poisoning their minds.

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Cain and Abel

by Freedom rocks in

i love this from the atheists book of bible stories.

cain and abel the sacrifices

for some reason, these two boys got it into their heads that god liked gifts.

Tameria2001

After leaving the JWs I finally and truly ready the whole bible, well except for all those he is the father of so and so, and that guy is the father of so and so, that part made my eyes gloss over. And I came to the conclusion about god in the bible. Jesus said you know me, you know the father, and they make him out to be this loving carrying god. Yet in the old testament, that god was a vengeful deity, and to me, he seemed a very bi-polar. My conclusion that the god throughout the bible is not the same entity. He can't be this loving carrying, just confess your sins and all is forgiven, and on the other hand, totally wiping out total civilizations on the other. Even what is mentioned in the old testament of the bible feels like it is talking about different beings, and they are trying to wrap it up into an all in one sort of thing.

That was what I got out of reading the bible.

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Thirteen Counties Where Apostasy is a Capital Offense..

by Room 215 in

you gotta wonder just how well jws are doing in "fulfilling their commission" in afghanistan, iran, malaysia, maldives, mauritania, nigeria, pakistan, qatar, saudi arabia, somalia, sudan, united arab emirates and yemen.

https://www.indy100.com/article/the-countries-where-apostasy-is-punishable-by-death--z110j2uwxb.

Tameria2001

What Vidiot about the JWs being number 14 is SO TRUE. I remember once when I was around 12, my mother told me that if we, referring to the JWs, were allowed to stone our kids, she would. What was my crime, you might be asking? Absolutely NOTHING. She just told me that out of the blue. She said the only reason JWs don't stone their kids is "because of the law of the land doesn't permit it". Yea, she was a real peach, and I mean that sarcastically.

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Plastic Surgery

by stan livedeath in

a sexually active woman tells her plastic surgeon that she wanted her ******l lips reduced in size because they were too loose and floppy.

out of embarrassment she insisted that the surgery be kept a secret and the surgeon agreed.

awakening from the anaesthesia after the surgery she found 3 roses carefully placed beside her on the bed.

Tameria2001

Maybe the surgeon didn't tell anyone, but instead, the recipient told the doctor to thank the whoever the doner was for him. Yes, I know this was satire. :)

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Who do they think they are speaking to in their literature?

by Tameria2001 in

it's been a very long time since i read any of the watchtower literature.

because of something i came across, i decided to see how things have changed (yet still the same).

anyways the article i read on the jw org site, and this article was dealing with teens.

Tameria2001

It's been a very long time since I read any of the Watchtower literature. Because of something I came across, I decided to see how things have changed (yet still the same). Anyways the article I read on the JW org site, and this article was dealing with teens. The subject matter was if your friend was drinking at a party. I read the article that is supposed to be aimed at teens but sounded more like they were talking to a four-year-old. That article was so dumbed down, it made me wonder who do they think they are speaking to? I have raised two teens, both now grown young men. One is now married with a baby on the way and the other in his third year of college. So I know how you should be talking to a teen, and talking to them like they are little children just won't cut it, and the Watchtower is wondering why so many young people leave.

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Ex jw memorial

by lancelink in

recently a young person who was df'd died.

as you can imagine, there will be no talk at the hall.. well, enter some very courageous other young ex jw's who had their own memorial.. these people got together , and had a bonfire in memory of our friend.

and since we have hardly seen each other in over ten years, the conversation and tears flowed all night.. it just amazes me how all the parents of these grown up, normal young people think that ignoring their children is something that god approves of.

Tameria2001

This is a very sensitive subject for many former JWs, myself included. My husband and I left the JW back when our boys were 4 and 6. My only rule to their grandparents (his parents), was that if they come around the boys, they were not allowed to shun their father in front of them. I was not going to put my children through that kind of mental abuse. After my husband and I disassociated ourselves his parents came by only once, and they wanted to take the boys off to McDonald's and then the park. I told them, no, but they were welcome to stay and visit with the boys, and they did. A few days later I had learned their true motives. They weren't planning on going to McDonald's and the park, but instead, they were planning on kidnapping my children and taking them off to an assembly in a totally different state. Found this out through a close relative (not a JW), who had called me out of concern, but only after it was all over.

Anyways that was the last I heard from them, well except for a couple of other time due to non-JW family reunions. We learned that my husband's younger sister had gotten married to a JW and that JW has two sons. My mother in law was going around like the proudest grandma on the face of the earth, over these two "grandsons" who are not even blood related to her but at the same time totally ignoring her actual grandsons.

Then a couple a years ago, we again happen to be at the same location, a family member was celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary. Anyways my mother in law, still a JW, came up to my now grown sons and was trying to act like she was a very loving grandmother, but to my sons, she is a total stranger. It was quite uncomfortable for them.

Here in a few days and I am going to be a grandma for the first time. I can't even imagine why anyone can do this to their own children, grandchildren, and greatgrandchildren. Yes, she is still alive, and she won't even get to know the joy of meeting her great-grandson. Her two "grandsons" aren't married and don't have any children. They are busy working in Jehovah's organization, and not having their own families because you know how we are in the time of the end.

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Russia=King of the North, USA=King of the South? New info coming in from Annual Meeting 2018

by Jules Saturn in

it was announced in this year’s annual meeting that they believe that the king of the north is russia and the king of the south is us/britain.

for me this is the first time hearing from the society actually identifying the identity of the king of the north.

very interesting times!

Tameria2001

This is old news.