Posts by Saintbertholdt

Naw that's where most of the gnarly imagery resides... The four horsemen, the seven seals... The New Jerusalem... heavenly battles, great surrealist stuff.

My vote is for the book of Numbers for pure boredom: Zebukak begat Jehuvim, and Jehuvim begat Hosfarilib. And Hosfarilib begat Johisodak, who slew the Philistines on the plain of Moab, but he was struck down by a commuter train...if only.

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Told a JW about ARC in August, finally got a reply - Return to Jehovah booklet!!

by Xanthippe in

so i've mentioned this friend of my husband's who started writing to me out of the blue about three years ago, decades after we d'aed.

last august i wrote to her about the arc and jackson's summons.

i gave her the website details so she could see for herself.

Saintbertholdt

Hi Xanthippe,

This booklet says ' (big J) wants me to experience the relief of a clean conscience.'

You can always write that you went through the booklet but after you saw the testimony of the elders, overseers and the governing body member Geoffrey Jackson, you would never be able to have a clear conscience if you returned to the organization. How would your local congregation elders be able to address your concerns if a Governing Body members testimony did just the opposite?

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Could Have Been Worse

by Perry in

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leah rimini spent a lot of money before she ditched her cult: .

over the years she says she spent about $2 million for services and training courses and made another $3 million in donations.

among her expenses was $40,000 to compensate scientology for sandwiches... article.

Saintbertholdt

SecretSlaveClass: I think you mean the HBO documentary, "Going Clear."

Going Clear - Scientology and the Prison of Belief

I used to watch a lot of Tory Magoo and Mark Bunker videos on YouTube.

When you compare disconnect and the OSA (Office of Special Affairs) tactics to shunning, the Watchtower looks like Scientology lite.

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Too Much Discontent in the Congregation Part 2

by Simon Templar in

here is part 2..

so you will have some understanding of the boe i will reference in future posts, the following is who they are:.

the coordinator.

Saintbertholdt

Ah hahahahhahaha...

I hope you tell us many adventures.

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Is it true? Heard a rumor WT postphones Disfellowshipping until further notice!!??

by Olivia Wilde in

i am not sure if it's true but i heard from a good source that wt has given instructions to elders to postponed disfellowshipping members from wrong doing/gross sin until further instructions given by headquarters.

i heard some jws were just reproved either privately or publically.

has anyone else heard anything like this recently?

Saintbertholdt

The Governing Body shouldn't disappoint me now. I am used to the Watchtower being a cult and it would be too disturbing to me if they became a sect.

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Jeb Bush would kill a baby !

by Simon in

ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.

apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".

but still wtf?

Saintbertholdt

The best answer for any politician when posed a hypothetical:

The following should be read in Henry Kissingers voice:

I never answer hypothetical questions because any answer could be easily misconstrued.

Lets rather look at what actually transpired.

If the interviewer insists with: "Yes but what if..."

Well what if the moon was made of cheese? Or what if Hitler never existed?

Wonderful questions which have no bearing on current facts.

Could you please limit yourself to questions of a realistic nature?

Would you like discuss the second world war and its impact on US economics and foreign policy?

Image result for Henry kissinger

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What actually DID you learn?

by punkofnice in

my jw friends that still speak to me, tell me that they love the meetings because of the things they learn.. i wonder what they think they're learning?

it an avenue that always perplexes me because their replies are just so wishy washy or i get a blank stare when i ask.. what's you r experience?.

Saintbertholdt

I learned that there were exactly 12 rows of chairs in our kingdom hall. Almost split right down the middle with a center isle. 9 chairs were on the left of each row and 10 on the right.

Now that I think about it the numbers can't be right... so I don't think I learned anything.

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I gave the elders some ammo to use

by atacrossroads in

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i was having dinner at olive garden with my cousin who was disfellowshipped for apostacy.

a holier than thou pioneer couple saw us.

if that was not enough i saw her take a picture of me with my cousin.

Saintbertholdt

I think if you're cornered and you have to talk to an elder or elders the old Watchtower theocratic war strategy might be in order. The elders are not entitled to your private business and so spinning whatever story with even a grain of truth is in order:

1. Use any family business that was discussed (oh aunt Peggy is ill) and blow it to proportions that warranted the 'mandatory' contact or...

2. Say that your 'apostate' cousin was having thoughts about returning to the organization but wanted to discuss it with a close family member first and NOT any elders.

3. You were having dinner on your cousin's request with the express purpose of discussing 'aunt Peggy' and/or his glorious return to the Watchtower. He didn't want to talk to any elders and would only confide in you but only in a social setting.

4. If after some time if you are prodded again just say 'aunt Peg' recovered and/or your cousin suffered a relapse.

5. If you are ever asked why you haven't been back to meetings you can say that you wanted to but after you we're photographed by the pioneer couple you now feel quite depressed and scarred. You're getting better and will return soon but you just need some time...