Having read these previous posts ,I would`nt be at all surprised if some very clever dude has duped some/many? congregations into thinking this is a genuine letter from the Governing Body .?
When in fact its bogus .
Well I can dream can`t I ?
there was a letter read sunday at our meeting that mentioned some parts of us are starting to open back up.
however, regardless of things opening up that no kingdom halls should be used for any meetings of any kind.
also, no door-to-door ministry or any form of in-person ministry is allowed.
Having read these previous posts ,I would`nt be at all surprised if some very clever dude has duped some/many? congregations into thinking this is a genuine letter from the Governing Body .?
When in fact its bogus .
Well I can dream can`t I ?
i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.
2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.
4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.
johnamos
I got my 6 points of the OP simply by reading the so called word of GOD ,if those experiences are not in your Bible then I would like to know what Bible you are looking at.
Have a look back again at the scriptures in the Bible that cofty posted and try to reconcile those scriptures that describe Gods acts of judgement against man woman and child and having them dashed to pieces.
If my memory serves me correct there are only about 10 individuals that can be attributed to Satan having caused their death whereas there are millions if not billions of human deaths that can be attributed to Jehovah/Yahweh God of the Bible.
A God of Love ?
I rest my case.
hey all,.
i'm day six of isolation, confirmed to have coronavirus.
i have been seeing very sick cv positive patients over the last month in my a&e role (emergency physician) it was inevitable i would contract it.. just wanted to give some symptom and treatment advice, it's anecdotal but may help.. started as sore throat and headache, then croaky voice, then dry cough, then episodic transient fevers, all this over the first few days.
I just learnt about zing and now i`m reading this ? Your right DOC it has been TOO LONG !
I do hope he is alright ? and not another victim.
i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.
2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.
4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.
johnamos
Do you believe that you possess the quality of LOVE?
I would leave that up to anyone who knows me and judges me by my actions towards other people.
very sad news .i am zing's partner.
first time on any kind of blog so please forgive any mistakes.
we have lost zing to the coronavirus this saturday gone, in the early hours.
This is terrible news.I`m so sorry for your loss & my condolences to you and family
http://www.icr.org/article/9325/.
amazing read...go on , have a laugh if you want to.. new dna study confirms noah.
by brian thomas, m.s.
Carnby
Welcome to the forum I hope you stick around ,there is so much to learn from everybody`s input ,those of the pros and cons.
The WTB&TS have stated in their publications about Gen.1:1 that there could have been millions of years before Jehovah God turned his attention to the earth to put humans on it to populate the earth with perfect human beings .
And of course Satan through a spanner in that idea .
an poignant question which might make a few jws a bit uncomfortable.. the words of jesus said that no one knows of the time of his return not the ancient israelites or the first era christians and jesus admonished those who would set a time upon god's own sacred time.. words spoken by jesus that certain men failed to adhere to who self proclaimed preachers of the gospel.. the executive leaders of the watchtower corporation (gb) have said that they were the faith slave to jesus fulfilling his instructions to spread the word of the new system of things.
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yet over the past 140 years the wts and the men who have been running that organization have been endeavoring false prophets, selling a tainted corrupt version of the gospel through the literature these men published.
But then again the GB /WT /FDS have stated and who can deny it that according to Jehovah`s Witnesses Jesus Christ took up his Kingship in 1914 , does the bible say that ? Is their any scripture that specifically points to the year 1914 ?
No?
Now the GB /JW / FDS claim that because Jesus was installed as King in 1914 ,he would now have been given by Jehovah the time of the Great Tribulation and of Armageddon ?
Is their a Scriptual precedence for this ? no ,of course not. And obviously the JW earthly realm have no idea when these events are supposed to take place as they have never been right once .
i just woke up and i'm new on here.
if your an unbaptized publisher can you be disfellowshipped or dissociated?
please send me a message.
I think you have sprung a troll incognito , good catch my friend .
i rode my bicycle to the corner gas station / convenience store.i couldn't find my regular mask - so - i improvised.as i walked up to the young lady clerk, her eyes grewwide wide wider and she said:"that's a um very unique face mask you have there, sir.
"i grinned invisibly.
"yep, i actually made it from an old pair of purple boxer shorts.
Surely their now has to be a Cheeky Bikini mask that someone is almost wearing ?
this link had to do with the experience that was given by a young witness pioneer in the phillipines convention and her take was on return to jehovah .. an old time friend from the past sent me this link a couple of weeks ago trying to encourage me to come back to the religion and asked me what i thought of it ?.
i said i would if she could reply to my 2 questions first fair enough ?
so far i haven`t heard back from her and i will let you know if and when i do.. the 2 questions i asked her was to do with jehovah`s name and the christian greek scriptures ,especially the ki publication the wt brought out ,the word for word greek to english that didn`t have an equivalent greek word for jehovah .. and the other one was to do with the charge that was given to christians ,followers of jc to witness about jesus with over 20 such scriptures and not one saying anything about being a witness for jehovah anywhere in the nt.. over the years she has always still kept in touch, a little bit eccentric and we had a lot to do with her family and mine back in the day when we were all believers .. .and she is not backward in coming forward about having a go at the elders who she doesn`t agree with .. at the time i looked at the link and have posted somewhere else about it on this forum and mentioned i didn`t see anything about "returning to jehovah" in it .. anyway this was a few weeks ago and i was still waiting to hear from her..today we got mail from her ,,slow mail ,even though we have each others e-mail address .and in the envelope was only the wt "return to jehovah " and inside a $50 note.?.
This link had to do with the experience that was given by a young witness pioneer in the Phillipines convention and her take was on return to Jehovah .
An old time friend from the past sent me this link a couple of weeks ago trying to encourage me to come back to the religion and asked me what I thought of it ?
I said I would if she could reply to my 2 questions first fair enough ? So far I haven`t heard back from her and I will let you know if and when I do.
The 2 questions I asked her was to do with Jehovah`s name and the Christian Greek Scriptures ,especially the KI publication the WT brought out ,the word for word Greek to English that didn`t have an equivalent Greek word for Jehovah .
And the other one was to do with the charge that was given to Christians ,followers of JC to witness about Jesus with over 20 such scriptures and not one saying anything about being a witness for Jehovah anywhere in the NT.
Over the years she has always still kept in touch, a little bit eccentric and we had a lot to do with her family and mine back in the day when we were all believers .
.And she is not backward in coming forward about having a go at the Elders who she doesn`t agree with .
At the time I looked at the link and have posted somewhere else about it on this forum and mentioned I didn`t see anything about "Returning to Jehovah" in it .
Anyway this was a few weeks ago and I was still waiting to hear from her..Today we got mail from her ,,slow mail ,even though we have each others e-mail address .And in the envelope was only the WT "Return To Jehovah " and inside a $50 note.?
No letter / note from her and no answer to any of the questions I asked her .? WTF ?
As I said she is a bit eccentric and must be close to my age 80 ,so what can I say ?
I think I will just let it rest and wait for her to contact me again ,I imagine curiosity will get the better of her and she will want to know how I viewed the magazine ?
Oh , the games that we play ...?
And to be fair I will read this WT magazine she sent ,though it panes me to do so ,I will read it . And comment if the need arises .