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  Dutch judge rules that elders are not entitled to hide behind clergy-penitent privilege

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today a dutch judge ruled that jw elders and the jw branch cannot invoke clergy-penitent privilege when it comes to information used in a judicial committee.. jw had filed a complaint with the courts because the branch office, two kingdom halls and a few elders' homes were raided by police almost 2 years ago in search of evidence related to child abuse issues.. jw argued that the information that was taken by police is protected by clergy-penitent privilege.

  today the judge ruled that 1) an organization doesn't haven't such a privilege, 2) jw elders don't always act as spiritual counselors.

  their actions as judges in judicial committees aren't protected by privilege, and 3) conversations jw have with their elders are often not confidential at all (as per jw policy) so jw elders can't rightfully invoke clergy-penitent privilege to maintain absolute confidentiality, because there isn't absolute confidentiality in the first place.. jw are thinking about appealing the verdict..

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  you were very wrong and admit that your rulings hurt people? We are not talking about slight hurt, it is often grievous life-long psychological problems burdening vulnerable members.

  Not only just hurt people ,but give them a death sentence with their unscriptual blood doctrine .

  The scriptures show that when a life is at stake ,human life took precedence over the law.

  The soldiers who were starving failed to bleed the animals before eating them.

  And their was no punishment to them.They were excused because their lives were in danger.

  1Sam.chapter 14
  
  
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  Jehovah? Oh dear.

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some recent new friends on this forum like friend kosonen are fixated with god's name being jehovah...unfortunately they are wrong:.

  a quick bit of history:.

  "about the 13th century the term “jehovah” appeared when christian scholars took the consonants of “yahweh” and pronounced it with the vowels of “adonai.” this resulted in the sound “yahowah,” which has a latinized spelling of “jehovah.” the first recorded use of this spelling was made by a spanish dominican monk, raymundus martini, in 1270.. interestingly, this fact is admitted in much jehovah’s witness literature, such as their aid to bible understanding (p. 885).

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  Isaiah 43:10-12 ,That scripture was applied to the Israelites long before the 20th Century was upon us when Rutherford decided to apply it to his religion

  When that scripture was uttered to the israelites did they then understand that were to identify themselves as Jehovah`s Witnesses ? no ,and they never did .

  If it had have been the intention of God for them to do that then Jesus would have rebuked them and he would have made sure they adopted that name .But he did no such thing.

  But what do we find in the Bible ? Followers of Jesus were , " By Divine Providence called Christians" ,not Jehovah`s Witnesses.
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  Another heart-worming story

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  today, i got an email from an old friend with a story told by brother andre ramseyer who attended training at patterson in england.

  a service dog regularly attended the meetings with his owner.

  when the owner passed away, the dog was given to another blind man.

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  It all sounds like dogshit to me .
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  To Smiddy and all in Oz

  by stillin in

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  A North Korean and an American Delegation were meeting in a neutral country for a conference .The two main members of the delegation met to break the ice and share a few drinks together informally.

  After quite a few drinks and some time had passed ,they got on to the differences between the two countries and their attitudes to their leaders .

  The American boasted that he could say anything he wanted to about the President : then he goes into a tirade against President Trump ,and when he finishes ,he says ,see ? there will be no backlash or punishment for him doing so .

  The North Korean delegate said he could do the same thing with no backlash or punishment against him for doing so from his Leader Kim Jon- Un .

  And then he proceeds to go into a tirade against the American President Donald Trump.
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  This'll put a smile on your face....

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. humour

  ....and you'll think about it every time you hear america singing, "a horse with no name.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4lnc6b4jri.

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  That was classic I just wished they hadn`t shown the first few seconds of what they were doing and if they had of done it in there back yard or in an open park it would have been ever so much better

  But it was truly good.
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  Michael Palin: North Korea - Similarities In N.Korean and JW Mentality

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  did anyone catch michael palin's travel documentary in north korea?

  it was a fascinating insight into such a secretive and controlled country.

  totalitarian, suppressed and yet i found a few similarities to jw mentality.. particularly, this segment, where michael asks his handler about the limitations on freedom she has.

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  Well you certainly can`t criticise WT LEADERS can you .Oh that`s right they don`t have leaders do they ,everbody`s on the same level in the WT religion .

  A P.O. may have a part on the platform and when he`s finished he will sit down among the rest of the congregation and he doesn`t wear any clothing that distinguishes him from anybody else .

  Their leader was Jesus Christ ? say what ?

  That`s how I was introduced to the "clergy" in 1960.

  Oh that`s right they have a clergy class do they ? Until their in a court of Law that is, and then they cry Clergy Penitent privlidge to not divulge some vital information.
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  Dis/UNITED Kingdom?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. social
  2. current

  england, wales, scotland & n.i.

  are independently making or changing the covid 19 lockdown laws/rules to suit themselves... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52600708.

  garden centres are opening in wales on monday, in england on wednesday, but by the looks of things, are far too dangerous to open them anytime soon in scotland or n.i.

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  Here in Australia the Prime Minister outlines a broad outline of what is expected during a stage 3 lockdown for the nation .However each state has a Minister that interprets what is essential for that state under those guidelines .

  Some states have far greater infections than other states and so more stricter control is needed , whereas some states with very few infections or even no infections for days , feel they can ease up on restrictions and ease back a bit more

  I don`t see any problems with the way things are handled here .One size doesn`t fit all .Common sense needs to prevail.
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  Jehovah provided zoom?!

  by Tim207 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  seems like every zoom meeting someone comments how happy they are that jehovah has provided us with this wonderful app called zoom.

  does that mean jehovah knew about covid back in 2011 when zoom was founded?

  why do people thank god for things people create?

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  Sounds like Jehovah is playing catch up with Satan,after all ,they wouldn`t need Zoom if Satan`s organization hadn`t

  1, Shut down the "life saving D2D Witnessing " of Jehovah`s Witnesses .

  2, Shut down any Assembly/Convention programs

  3,Shut down meeting attendance at kingdom halls

  Etc,Etc,Etc.

  Sounds to me loke its a win win win for Satan and his organization against Jesus sitting on his throne ?
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  Update again

  by Akid48 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i don't know if anyone remembers me on here but i'm here to do an update again.. well, i'm 15 going on 16 soon i still remember watching my first video on youtube and learning that all the jw teachings are false and everything that follows.

  crazy times, i have chosen to just focus on school and just trying to be a kid well a teen now but you get the point.

  i'm not really mad about all the jw stuff i've come to accept that i couldn't have done anything to prevent it i was born into a family that was already into the religion.

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  Good for you AKID48 .Well you certainly have set yourself a task on a lot of reading .I think cofty here could give you some good advice on what to read first regarding the evolution topics taking in your age etc.

  As far as C.O.C or 1984 ,before reading those if I could make a suggestion I would reccomend "Captives of A Concept" by Don Cameron download by LULU if memory serves me correct I think its brilliant.

  I wish you well on your journey through life ,to wake up about TTATT at your age Theirs no telling what you can accomplish
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  My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  brothers and sisters associated with the watchtower society may 9, 2020. i have tried to inform you of the necessary adjustments you ought to take in order to truly be in the truth.

  but my efforts have remained fruitless.

  you well know the biblical procedure.

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  I love Koso`s wording "demanding correction from them" with his nu-light .