(referred to below: watchtower bible and tract society presidents: russell, rutherford, knorr, franz )did you know that from 1879 until 1954 ... ... the writings of c.t.russell, j.f.rutherford, nathan knorr, and the watchtower's own charter... ... agreed ... that jesus christ was to be worshiped?this fact has been cleverly and dramatically hidden by manipulation of older quotations.
______________________________________________________________________pastor charles taze russell answers the question for us.
see below zion’s watch tower 1898 jul 15 p.216“question: the fact that our lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was god the father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man.
Did you know that from 1879 until 1954 ...
... the writings of C.T.Russell, J.F.Rutherford, Nathan Knorr, and the Watchtower's own charter...
... agreed ...
that Jesus Christ was to be WORSHIPED?
And isn`t that what Philippians says in Capt.2 : 8-11 ? and all of the scriptures in the New Testament ?
Not one scripture in the N.T. charges Christians to be witnesses of Jehovah.not one.
However their are over twenty scriptures that state that Christians are to be witnesses of Jesus Christ.
do you think any higher ups know that much of the doctrine they teach is bunk?
thinking back to the time of raymond franz, how he pointed out specifically numerous teachings that the churches really did have right all along, and really any of the hidden mic apostacy trials you listen to on youtube, you see that even when inconvenient bible teachings are proven, the elders just try to sweep it under the rug and move on.
i think i remember franz saying how one of the gb approached him somewhat sympathetically, but there was nothing he could do.. whether you believe in the bible or not, there are some basic beliefs common among most denominations because they're just so plainly stated, such things as heavenly life for all christians, no central authority structure, minimal use of god's name, etc.
Of course they do ,but they have painted themselves into a corner by their having believed and promoted this religion for so many years ,and that they are now beholden to it for their financial livelihoods and to come out against it now would leave them and their wives destitute.
They simply have too much to lose personally.
can we really talk about beauty?
(first, a necessary preamble.
bear with me, please.
“It was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one, but he entered heaven itself, now to appear before us in God’s presence” (9:23-24).Heb.
Big deal , Christ`s entering into heaven ,apparently Satan has had that privilege all along since his rebellion against Jehovah God according to the book of job.He could come and go as he pleased .Job Chap.1
And if the Jw`s are wrong about Satan being confined to the earth in 1914-19 then Satan is probably still chatting with God in heaven to this day.
i like to ride my bicycle to starbucks.
when weather permits i sit on the patio and write in the sunshine.a pesky crow i call edgar usually arrives to beg (or steal).that's all you need to know before we begin._____________________.
location exterior : the patio of starbuckstime: 11 amcast:lou : media / news analyst, religious fundamentalistterry: crow magnet and know-it-alledgar: spawn of satan________________.
That was a good read Terry not only funny but surprisingly informative .
I`m now looking forward to you meeting a Jehovah`s Witness ?
One who will not or cannot be a witness for Jehovah ?
I`m sure that would be an excellent piece of writing by you also .
another very well researched programme by the blue envelope exploring stephen lett's bio and his family interest in property.
interestingly his parents were pioneering until the new service year 1975 , when they immediately changed tack and began investing in properties along the gulf coast.
once again, highly recommended veiwing.. https://youtu.be/9qh0jbvsdrc.
It was a very interesting video that brings up a question in me regarding all of the G.B.members .?
O.K,.I can understand them getting their accommodation ,meals ,and health care benefits along with a travel allowance ,however I just wonder how much money apart from those things do they actually get ?
And no matter how much it is all moneys combined that they get comes from money donated by R&F JW`s to further Kingdom Interests .
How much of those donated moneys furthers the personal interests of the G.B. members ?
here is the updated chart based on jw.org provided statistics found here: link to 2019 statistics.
anything that stands out to you ?.
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The number claiming to be of the anointed was supposed to be going down as proof the"End" was almost here ?
The lowest it ever got was about 8000 .
And this was before the end of the century ? What`s changed that now those claiming to be of the anointed has jumped up to about 20000 ?
How do they explain or rationalise that ? without saying and blaming the rank and file for not getting the picture right ?
Otherwise its just saying that the teaching ability of the rank and file of their beliefs to new members is pathetic.
so much for the ministry school training if they cant get that right?
What`s the female doing in that meeting though ? its a men`s only club ,no females allowed.
what is the benefit of god's kingdom?.
the watchtower said when it started out in 1879 that god's kingdom had already arrived in heaven in 1874 and that its work would be complete by 1914. .
with heroic slogans of "destroying the kings of the earth" and "all enemies of christ the king" etc by 1914, "god fearing" humankind was to have been restored to prelapsarian innocence and the earth to a global edenic paradise.
Maybe Gods kingdom ? or is it Jehovah`s Kingdom ? or is it the kingdom of Jesus christ ? O.K. ,I know its the overlapping Kingdom of God ? Jehovah ? Christ Jesus ? Holy Spirit ? as a throw in.
Are you confused ? I know I am ,whose kingdom is it ? don`t tell me its God ,JC ,Jehovah a Trinitarian kingship ?
Was Jesus king 2000 years ago ? During this past 2000 years since then ?
Was Jesus king since 1914 ? and onward ?
Or is his kingship of 1000 years yet to begin in the future ?
How many applications of his kingship and when they began are their ?
Or do they all come under Jesus Christs overlapping kingdoms /kingships.
the final order was issued few hours ago:.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.336935/gov.uscourts.cand.336935.30.0.pdf.
the record establishes that darkspilver made fair use of the watch tower ad and chart.
Good point slim ,maybe he can fill us in ,in due time. Hopefully he was successful .
... or rather listen to the advice on their jw news website:.
show love to others.
while we all know the importance of attending christian meetings and participating in the public ministry, if you are sick, it is best to stay home to avoid infecting others.
Covid-19 or not I still would not attend to answer your question. And I only know when it is because of this forum .
