Posts by SPAZnik

I don't think so, but tuff to say for sure
when and how WTBTS woulda crossed my path;
who and under what circumstances
from what angle
if I hadn't been born and raised into it.

I AM an incredibly curious soul.
I may have checked it out.
Yes, I would have.
But whether I would have become one?
Not sure.

Mainly if not raised a witness
I would have simply been happy
to be involved in
various good "causes"
that crossed my path.

(and that's what i'm free to
look into now!)

SPAZ

22

Its time for me to Leave

by radar in

jw
friends

this is goodbye from me folks!.

my son keeps taunting me saying are you on that jo bo site again.

it is true, i have spent too much time here, staring into the computer screen waiting for a revelation or something to catch my interest or imagination.. when i think about all that time and all those years spent as a watchtower slave, well it does leave you empty and with time on your hands dont it?.

SPAZnik

bu-bye radar

nice "meetin'" ya.

HAVE A NICE LIFE!!!

come back to "visit" anytime.

SPAZ

6

light bulb

by bchapp in

how many jehovah's witnesses does it take to change a light bulb?

one to screw in the bulb, and two to knock on your door and ask you if you've seen the light!.

"if the truth hurts most of us so badly that we don't want it told,.

SPAZnik

LMAO...til my tummy hurts!

Hilarious!

Thx for the giggles.

gigglin'SPAZ

22

What do you believe in after "The Truth&qu...

by Atreyu in

an invitation:.

i would like to see a short description of your personal beliefs or religion today, after you lost faith in "the truth", from anyone here that feels for it.

SPAZnik

I believe
this is a
good question.
There is a wonderful
diversity
of beliefs
on this forum.

I believe
that i can
enjoy everybody's
uniqueness
without forcing
myself upon them
(or vice versa).

I believe
i am in a period
of transition
spiritually speaking
and that i can
make my personal
spiritual journey
from here on in,
an enjoyable one.

So far,
I believe
in myself.

My jury is still
out
on whether
I believe in God
or Creation
anymore.
The vote isn't
unanymous or
by any means
final,
but i'm leaning
For.

I believe
life should be
made enjoyable
and should feel
worth living
for me
and for those
around me.

I believe
i'll do all i can
to do just that.

SPAZ

4

Welcome to central mind control

by SPAZnik in

fantastic sleep.

last night.

and it got me thinking.

SPAZnik

I had such a
fantastic sleep
last night

and it got me thinking
about how much i've
totally enjoyed being able to
rest and recuperate
since leaving the WTBTS.
actually, i've been
surprised to discover
that SLEEP
has been my
single greatest pleasure
since leaving.

i was reminded
of a conversation
i had with an ex-military
friend of mine
not so long ago
and a comment he made with
reference to "basic training"
during his military days
he explained to me
that part of the military's "programming"
of new recruits
in basic training
definitely involves
sleep deprivation
(as well as lotsa otha borg like qualities)

today i linked that
comment
with how
sleep deprived i've felt
for years now.
my previous "life"
in the WTBTS
DEFINITELY had me
(and a lot of others)
sleep deprived
trying to keep up
with all their
rules & regs.
(happy to say though
that R&R has a new
and far more enjoyable
meaning for me now!)

and for the first time
ever....
i'm seeing this as a
"programming" thing.
never before this
moment
did i see it/them as "brainwashing"

*whoa*

SPAZ

lately i'm a postin' fool
(but a well-rested postin' fool!)

edited title

35

Do you beleive in God, the bible or religion?

by Leander in

jw
friends

i'm pretty sure this question has probably been asked before but i'd like to put it out here and see what the responses are.

my doubts about the bible probably began maybe 6 or 7 years ago, they were very small ones however and i managed to supress them for quite a while.

however certain events in my life would make those events resurface.

SPAZnik

Re: Do you beleive in God, the bible or religion?

Not particularly.
at this time.

SPAZ

31

Name some practices of the WTS that are'nt bibical

by Leander in

jw
friends

my personal hell has started since i told my wife i was stepping down and why i was doing so.

she has barely said 2 sentences to me in the last 24 hours, but i can understand her being upset so i'm trying my best to remain patient.. yesterday afternoon i told my cousin who is also one of my closest friends about my decision.

we ended up talking about it for more than 4 hours.

SPAZnik

Leander,

Still thinking 'boutcha.
Hang in there eh.
Expect a ride on this.

All the best
prepping your "arguments".

No matter what you
tell the dubs that
lub ya
they are not likely
to agree.

Keep in mind
that you have been
contemplating this
for some time now...

The people in your life
however
have just been
"blindsided".

Expect them to
react
something like
a deer in the
headlights.

Your points above
seem excellent.

If you wish to use scriptures
to make your stand,
definitely look them up in advance
rather than saying
"i'm not sure where it is"
that just sounds wishywashy and
unsure.

The ones that ultimately come to my
mind have to do with the scriptural
legalities of
making your own choice in the
matter.

The biblical God
gives options and
consequences.

May sound morbid
to them...
(something like
the whole euthanasia
debate)
but the way i see it,
if "God" allows
me the option
to make my own choice,
why won't people?
(his so-called servants)

Ultimately
they should
respect your
scriptural
Right
to make your own
spiritual
decision(s)
for your own
reasons
whether they
understand them
or agree
or not.
And just as you
will respect
their right
to live as they
choose. (if that's how you feel)

Even if they
get angry and choose
to hate you
just use "Jehovah's"
behavior
against them.
How did "Jehovah"
treat his "enemy"?
Still allowed
"Satan" to say his
thing. (read Job)
Eventually
put him outta
heaven,
but...
the biblical God
still 'makes the sun shine
and the rain rain
on both wicked and good'
right?

Do jdubs follow
this example?

I think not.

If it's your
free will
to exercise,
then why don't
they respect that?

This reasoning
can be used
to refute their
insistance
to meet and
challenge
your decision.

By submitting
your letter,
you have already
fulfilled any and all
obligations around your
membership
to their legal organization.

The rest is between
you and the "reader of hearts"
(to use their bible).

My comments are not
aimed to be specific
anti-jdub propaganda
but more to give you
confidence to
stand up for your
right to decide
& hopefully some comments
that can help
"field" some
emotional
& pre-conditioned
reactions.

Please take my
comments with the
knowledge about me
that i am still
fairly messed up
spiritually speaking
after leaving
and trying to
"deprogram"
myself,
but this is how
i see it
where i am
right now.

SPAZ

ps - welcome to your personal hell on earth!

21

question for you all....

by wonderwoman77 in

ok, here is my situation.

i have been talking with someone on the phone and i am very interested in this person.

i have only been talking to them about 4 or 5 days, and when i was talking to them last night or about 3 hours and at one point, just talking to them gave me that sensation, like you get after you kiss someone for the first time.

SPAZnik

don't deny your feelings.
that would be unhealthy.
of course be cautious
due to the circumstances.
i'd say sounds like you're
already smitten.
to deny yourself the opportunity
to explore the possibilities
could do more damage
than if you didn't risk at all.

SPAZ