Posts by stephanie61092

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Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?

by William Penwell in

in your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?

over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.

i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.

stephanie61092

Yes! The only new "convert" in my congregation has clear mental deficiencies. A very kind woman, but I don't have to be a MD to know that she has some definite imbalances going on.

even this weekend I was helping my parents (who have resumed their relationship with me despite being DFd - yay!) clean out and we came across some old WT books. I tried planting a seed by saying "we can throw these away because the doctrine has changed so much. These probably aren't even what we believe any more." My mom ignores that comment but did say "those books were deep. It's all pretty frilly now. I think it's too appeal to everyone coming into the organization and I don't think everyone coming in can handle critical thinking topics." Even the people still "in" know that the society has to appeal to a populous with lower intellect!

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"You don't go to church in a Kingdom Hall"

by stephanie61092 in

"you don't go to church in a kingdom hall" was stated during the public talk yesterday.

the speaker then elaborated that "people who go to church, go to fulfill a spiritual obligation.

coming to the kingdom hall is coming to learn.

stephanie61092

Outlaw.. Love your visual illustration! 😂😂 so true!

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"You don't go to church in a Kingdom Hall"

by stephanie61092 in

"you don't go to church in a kingdom hall" was stated during the public talk yesterday.

the speaker then elaborated that "people who go to church, go to fulfill a spiritual obligation.

coming to the kingdom hall is coming to learn.

stephanie61092

"You don't go to church in a Kingdom Hall" was stated during the public talk yesterday. The speaker then elaborated that "people who go to church, go to fulfill a spiritual obligation. Coming to the Kingdom Hall is coming to learn. We don't come here to sit for a social purpose. We come here to engage and learn."

While I couldn't actually laugh, as I was scribbling in my notebook i wrote down "LOL!" What a joke! How can anyone claim engaging learning takes place in a KH? Learning takes place with questioning, experimenting, and reciprocal conversation. NONE of those things happen in any meetings. The only engaging process is when people raise their hands to answer questions with underlined answers straight from the material, maybe with a little personal flair.

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Baptised younger

by Sabin in

so why do you think the borg is encouraging youngsters to get dunked sooner?

i reckon it's cause they are easy to victimise.

i mean, some-one could say, keep our secret, nobody will believe you & god wont love you, but think of the power they would have if they say "you will be disfellowshipped," on top.

stephanie61092

It's so disgusting. In this weeks portion of the "congregation bible study", they talked about parents encouraging children to wait to get married and not to pressure them into dating. Yet, they are laying it on thick to get baptized! I was only 13 when I got baptized. My dad even tried to reason with me not to make a life long commitment so young. No one could honestly expect a preteen to WISELY choose to get married, have children or choose a career. How can a child chose what faith they want to follow indefinitely?

Before I was DFed (but I knew it was coming), a younger girl (15/16) who always looked up to me asked me about baptism. Even though I still believed it was "the truth" I told her "WAIT! Jesus was 30 when he was baptized, you don't need to rush." Although I hadn't lost my faith yet, I knew this girl was on a similar path as I had been and would most likely get in trouble. The last thing I wanted for her was to lose her family/friends. Now, knowing everything I've learned since being DFed, I wish I could tell her to GTFO and never, ever get baptized!

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Just found out that my Mum is taking my 3 year old nephew to meetings!

by nicolaou in

to be precise, he is my brothers nephew but that makes no difference really.

mum is 71 and a true, hardcore jw.

she's a good mum but has a real blind spot where her faith is concerned.. i know her.

stephanie61092

I knew a family once where one of the (adult) daughters married a non JW and had a couple kids. Her life went down south and she attributed it to being "out of the truth." Not the fact that she had legitimate health problems and married a loser. anyway, she allowed her mother to take the kids to go to meetings. It wasn't long before the daughter started coming home and saying "Daddy, if you dont love Jehovah, you're gonna die!!" You can imagine how well that went over and how much longer the kids were allowed to go to meetings.

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Hello everyone. New here looking for info and friends

by Harvard Illiterate 411 in

i sometimes was redirected to this page from reddit or another ex-jw site but never bothered to sign up.

i wanted to stay off the radar but since i'm getting dis-fellowshipped anyways and have no plans to come back what the hell.

been 22 years in the truth........... ahhhh i hate to use that expression...... bad habit but you know what i mean.

stephanie61092

Welcome! I've been here a few weeks now and this is a wonderful board to read. I'm envious of you because I'm actually trying to get back in for familial reasons. However, until then, I'm privately enjoying all the vices that have been kept from me all my life. Holidays are fun!

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Travel recommendations?

by stephanie61092 in

hey guys.

i've decided that during this time of being dfed, maybe trying to get reinstated, i'm going to enjoy my time with myself.

that being said, i would like to do some traveling when the weather warms up across the us.

stephanie61092

Hey guys. I've decided that during this time of being DFed, maybe trying to get reinstated, I'm going to enjoy my time with myself. That being said, I would like to do some traveling when the weather warms up across the US. Does anyone have any travel recommendations on places to see while also remaining safe as a single lady? I enjoy history so I was planning on trying to see some major spots such as the Liberty Bell. Any and all tips would be greatly appreciated! I didn't want to solicit this on my personal FB page as I don't want to advertise that I'd be going anywhere alone

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Should this Body of elders be considered blood guilty?

by dbq407 in

over the weekend a very nice, caring individual was killed in a car accident after meeting.

she was 32 y/o and has a 3 year old daughter.

her husband was driving home from meeting when his car slid off the road, came back on the road, and was broad sided by a truck.

stephanie61092

I agree with all of the posters here to one extent or another.

The GB really does promote attendance equals salvation. I've heard them in recent talks say that the only 3 reasons you should miss a meeting are the "3 F's" meaning "fracture, fever or fatality." Unfortunately for that sister, she has that last reason to miss all meetings now.

However, I do feel like most should still have some portions of their brains active to use common sense in regards to the immediate, physical safety of their families. If the weather was bad, they shouldn't have gone out. Where I grew up there were frequent thunderstorms. Even if the meeting wasn't cancelled, we would usually stay home because it just wasn't worth the risk of driving in blinding rain on slippery roads. And that logic applied to going anywhere, not just the meetings.

Whatever the families reasoning was for going to the meeting, it's still very sad that this tragedy happened to them.

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Finding time

by Jordandemm in

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is it possible to full time pioneer while working a full time job without making up the hours?

i know of a brother who recently got married too a pioneer the guy was really desperate to get married because his wife despite her many 'spiritual credentials' has very few christ-like qualities unfortunately, anyway that's besides the point.

he is a pioneer now and i'm sure he will be a ms soon the organisation likes that type of stuff the 'pioneer couple' so it shouldn't come as a surprise.

stephanie61092

I have seen it go both ways, it just depends on the nature of the person doing it and why they want that official title of being a "pioneer."

In my old cong, there was a woman who worked full time but she would go in early service before work, do letter writing on lunch, evening service after work twice per week, full day on Saturday and then finally service for about an hour before and after meeting on Sunday. She did this for quite some time before turning in an application. I know she believed it was the best way to live her life and didn't care about having a title and/or obligation.

However, in my current cong, there is a brother who gets the majority of his time on the weekends "encouraging" those who are struggling and doing letter writing in the homes of the elderly who can't go in service; he even admitted to always stopping at the gas station before work to leave a tract with his phone number on it and then counting his commute time to work and then placing another tract in the phone vestibule of his office. He claimed he could count his commute time because if someone at the gas station found his tract and was really interested, they could call him and he would be available for discussion while he drove! He said that it was his way of a "guaranteed 6-7 hours per week without sacrificing or doing much."

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GB bites off more than they can chew!

by biblexaminer in

the gb bit off more than they can chew.

they promised that the nwt revised would be available in so many languages by now, and they have failed miserably.. english stands alone.

as a result, they are in damage control mode.

stephanie61092

Thank you so much for posting this information!