Posts by longgone

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Child Custody/Visitation questions? JW Parent and me as the non JW parent

by Gokumonkey in

hello everyone, this is my fellow up from my first post, feel free to check that out if your unsure of the whole situation.

i have two twin babies that are now two months old.

i already to my ex to court, yes i took her to court and now im established as the father and ill be paying child support next week.

longgone

Please don't willingly let them get baptized before 18.

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A disturbing reaction.

by longgone in

earlier today i was listening to a you tube video about brain plasticity, how our minds aren't hardwired, and that by changing the way we think it can make actual physical changes in the brain.

which is cool for many reasons.

one in particular for me and likely any ex jw is that the way the wts has programmed us, especially those born in, can eventually get past it.

longgone

Thanks very much for your thoughts and suggestions!

There's a lot to think about from them. It really helps to have others who understand where I'm coming from. I wouldn't consider mentioning this sort of thing with anyone other than here. Thanks again. 😊

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A disturbing reaction.

by longgone in

earlier today i was listening to a you tube video about brain plasticity, how our minds aren't hardwired, and that by changing the way we think it can make actual physical changes in the brain.

which is cool for many reasons.

one in particular for me and likely any ex jw is that the way the wts has programmed us, especially those born in, can eventually get past it.

longgone

Earlier today I was listening to a You Tube video about brain plasticity, how our minds aren't hardwired, and that by changing the way we think it can make actual physical changes in the brain.

Which is cool for many reasons. One in particular for me and likely any ex JW is that the way the WTS has programmed us, especially those born in, can eventually get past it.

Then the lecture went further about how meditation and mindfulness can work along with that, and so on. I've been practicing this for well over a year, but none that are connected with religious themes.

He spoke quite forcefully and without straight up saying anything clearly religious he started blending in references to the Bible indirectly. Such as you can have a "new personality" and think about forgiveness and how one can "serve.' He could have just said give back to the community. Then he said a few other key words/phrases from scripture. Religion or spirituality wasn't mentioned in the description. I checked the links to his other lectures, books seminars etc. All that it said was about abundance and attracting wealth.

When he started in on this subtle religious line I immediately thought well forget this and turned it off. I didn't realize it right away but within less than a minute my stomach tightened and I started feeling sick. My earlier good mood turned into something like dread.

When I recognized what was happening and why, I tried to drop the thoughts and continued on. Before long I was back to feeling good again.

This same feeling has come up when I overhear people talking about their church activities. Christan music is always on in my doctor's office and I get the same feeling. Again in a thrift store, the Christan music made me feel ill. I actually had to leave before long.

Is this just me? I don't like these reactions and hope one day I'll be indifferent to religious comments, music etc. Has anyone had something like this happen? Did it go away with time? Thank you for your input in advance.😊

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Remember Your First Taste of Freedom?

by Funchback in

it's around 10am here in the northeast of brazil.

i have just finished having coffee and a light breakfast.

i am reflecting on my saturdays of jw past, where i would be just about ready to leave the morning field service group and go door-knocking.. honestly, i hated every second of field service, always keeping one eye on the clock, counting down the minutes until service would be over.. 12 years later since i last "preached", i am also reflecting on the sense of freedom i experienced (and still experience) when i definitively said "no more!

longgone

I was also thinking about Saturday field service this morning. How up until about a year ago that meant either going out and hating it, or feeling guilty for not going!

It's a warm and sunny day here in the Midwest USA. I'm looking forward to spending time with my never were, or ex-jw family. Wishing a great Saturday to everyone! 😎

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its saturday morning and its pouring down rain...

by nowwhat? in

how many jdubs are going out in service anyway because "they have to get their time in.

" that's some "best life ever!

" you guys got going on!

longgone

Oh here's a good one. During the circuit overseers final talk on Sunday, he said that going in FS even though they are so many not-at-homes was still important.

That way the group could "encourage one another" and of course the ever present Jehoover would be pleased.

Yes, it's soo encouraging to be have three people packed in the back seat while driving in circles for two and a half hours. (Deduct that 30 minute doughnut break unless you leave a tract in the restroom.)😄

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To Fade or Disassociate

by Jules Saturn in

hello to all, so i did want to talk about this topic because i think it is very important to me.

i have a grandfather who faded several decades ago.

he occasionally attends an assembly and the memorial but no longer attends meetings or goes on field service.

longgone

I've also went back and forth in my mind whether to DA or continue to fade. Threads on this subject have helped me see the pros and cons. I'm sure you'll find that true for yourself.

Right now I'm making a quiet fade to keep family as many here do. As long it continues to work I'll stick with it. I have the advantage that my family is far away.

Still, as much as I'd like to, I don't openly express my views to them. I don't post them on Facebook or other social media, or to current JW's that I have occasional contact with. There's always someone who knows someone even from across the country so it could easily get back to family. 😞

I like Rebels8's ideas very much, but some are too risky for me, but might work for you. If somehow in the future the family situation changes, I'll put a notice in the newspaper, and so forth.

Overall, I don't want to play their games including keeping quiet. But I'm stuck with that. It's a cult, I was born into it and unfortunately it will always have some negative hold on me.

Yet my mind is free and that's my victory over the WTS! Hope this helps a little, best wishes. -- LG

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Some Good News About Me (Although Anthony Morris Will Be Furious)

by pale.emperor in

just wanted to share with you some good news i'm really excited about.

i have been accepted for university to study psychology and counseling.

my goal is to become a counselor and, in time, to specialize on treating those who have left high control relationships/groups like we all did.. it'll take a few years before im qualified but studying in university has been a dream of mine since i was 12, which was systematically dashed to pieces by watchtower.. .

longgone

🎉🎉 Good for you Pale! 🎉🎉

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"Our Lord and Savior" . . . Seriously??

by neat blue dog in

did anybody else notice in the convention drama when they went to the memorial the speaker called jesus "our lord and savior"?

when have you ever heard jws use that phrase?

christians, yes; jws, no..

longgone

Again, like Wasanelder,

Not once in 57 years. If I had heard those words at a convention or in talk, I'm sure I would have fallen out of my chair... Christendom!!!

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More boring baby stuff and wife's first birthday

by Darkknight757 in

hello just giving a quick baby update again.

we went for another growth scan yesterday which marks 26 weeks, 4 days and the genetics dr. felt that we needed to head to hospital for labor and delivery.

so as of now the wife is being monitored and the hope is she can stay until delivery which hopefully will be a few weeks.

longgone

💜 Hugs and good thoughts to all.💜

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Who holds the Burden Of Proof?

by stuckinarut2 in

when we as former witnesses wake up and choose to leave the society, it is mainly because we value truth and honesty.. the society tries to make out that we are in the wrong.

that we have "left the truth".. but, who really holds the burden of proof?

do we (who leave) need to prove that the society is not the "truth", or does the society need to prove that it is the "truth".. thoughts?.

longgone

If by leaving the supposed truth of the WTS and belief in a God, then why do I after a lifetime of prayers, a lifetime of believing I had a "close relationship with Jehovah" and belonging to the only religion that had "Truth" do I feel absolutely no loss? Why no desire to pray? Why no feeling of guilt for no longer believing in either?

The only change I've experienced is that my imaginings of God have been replaced with standing on my own two feet. I now realize that I have control and responsibility for my attitude and decisions. Not someone else. I no longer feel like a wooden puppet at of the mercy of WTS/GB/GOD.

My life continues to have the same struggles as before, some days better or worse than others. However, I feel some inner peace and often joy that I never experienced while a JW and belief in God.

I think the burden of proof lies with God and the WTS. I personally see no evidence of either. While I respect the beliefs of others provided they don't hurt anyone, kindness and logic are truth for me.