Posts by konceptual99

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If there were no faithful and discreet slave until 1919,then what would the witnesses say if you were to show them these scriptures?

by label licker in

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revelation 1:1 a revelation by jesus christ which god gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.

and he sent forth his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave john,.

jude 1 jude, a slave of jeus christ .

konceptual99

Don't be too hard on DD as it is a serious point. Of course asking deeper and deeper questions is what leads many to TTATT. Don't forget that the first step for many is to stop asking questions, or perhaps more to the point, not looking too far for answers they know are not there. They are too scared to go outside the publications.

The step to researching from so called apostate sites is a big one. What the tipping point is will vary from person to person. It might even be stupid comments about tight pants is the straw that breaks the camel's back and frees an individual's conscience so that they do start looking at more serious matters.

LL - you are right that there has been a lot of discussion re Morris' words. Perhaps lots of what has been said is frivilous but the interesting thing is that this is also generating ALOT of comment in JW world. Check out facebook and instagram. There has been a fairly heated debate on jwtalk about it. Morris' approach has generated comment between JWs like no other contentious subject. No one mentions 607, 1914, generations, blood, flip flops etc. yet they feel free to discuss this subject. You never know what this exposure will trigger in those that are already almost there.

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Changed: Head coverings for sisters, w15 2/15 QFR

by wifibandit in

does a female kingdom publisher need to wear a head covering if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher?.

in a questions from readers item published in the watchtower of july 15, 2002, it was stated that a sister should cover her head if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher, whether he is baptized or not.

further consideration of the matter suggests that a modification to this direction is appropriate.. if the male publisher who accompanies the sister while she conducts an established bible study is baptized, the sister would certainly want to wear a head covering.

konceptual99

The issuse re older women having to defer to young children was pointed out when the previous ruling wad made. I am sure this is why they have changed it now.

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Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival

by Hidden-Window in

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many of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.

the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.

many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.

konceptual99

15 mins is for those with special circumstances such as old age, severe illness etc. For most people it's as you describe it.

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Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival

by Hidden-Window in

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many of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.

the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.

many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.

konceptual99

I had this very conversation with my wife recently. She did not buy it at all. Her view was that we are getting what we need now. The GB have recognised it's hard for people and making it as easy as possible to hang on in there until the end.

I think the information age does make it easier to find the material for critical research - I know it helped me. I still think though that the simple fact the material is there is enough to make a significant difference. The cognative dissonance runs deep as does the anti-apostate scaremongering. It's there when people want to search but I don't think we are at a point where people are being poked from a state of acceptance of WT doctrine to research TTATT.

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A young girl shouts down a Street preacher

by fulltimestudent in

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got to admit that when some of these screechers get wound up, ive felt the same as the young lady.. http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/11/06/08/34/girl-tells-street-preacher-to-shut-up.

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konceptual99

Got to agree with the posts that deplore the behaviour. Perhaps this little girl is related to BOTR...?

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Is Anthony Morris III gay?

by Calebs Airplane in

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why else would he constantly bring up "gay-inspired" clothing when speaking to such large audiences?.

nothing wrong with being gay.

but he should just come out of the closet already and stop all this stupidity... just saying.. .

konceptual99

No idea if he is gay but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a c***.

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Anthony Morris The Third

by Yondaime in

when i am3 was going to speak i was ecstatic to hear this lunatic embarass himself.

after the propaganda indoctrination session, a relative asked me what my spiritual goals were, i told em i want to become a servant before i turn 23 so i could get laid.

lmfao.

konceptual99

"man enough"....

so it's all about testosterone fueled, billy big bollocks machismo now? Elders not just being assertive but bullying the congregation into submission?

Morris really is a c***.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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konceptual99

Some of the comments from jwtalk...

Just got home after eating after branch visit. AMAZING! I've said a lot of that stuff to people tactfully, but Bro. Morris nailed it.

Bro. Morris is so funny....he gave a talk that was straight forward.

That was THE MOST DIRECT talk I've ever heard in my 25 years in the truth! WOW!

It was amazing. Loved bro Morris's talk, he is so direct, he really made me think about my life

A regular brother would get stoned if he gave a public talk like that. Only a GB member could do that.

WOW! That was a very straight to the point talk! I enjoyed it immensely and talk about really making you think. It was very encouraging!!!!

I absolutely loved the Branch visit for a number of reasons. I will be interested to hear what friends thought about the very Direct and Frank discussion by all of the Brothers.

What I get is that there i nothing 'new' as such, just very to the point and hard hitting.

Bro. Morris, LOVED IT!!! Talks like that should be given---maybe more often than they are. Just recall how he opened the talk about where this info originated.

What you have here is conditioning through osmosis. One of the GB says things in a talk that NO ONE else could say as it's unloving, unscripturual, full of personal opinion and judgemental. One of the GB says things in a talk that will NEVER be published as they are too controversial to be put down in print.

This stuff gets lapped up by ones in audience who wish they could be as judgemental, unloving, unscriptural and opinionated from the platform but can't because they are not one of the GB. It does give them tacit approval to voice their opinions more however.

At the AGM they show mock humilty about not "going beyond the things written" over Franz's type/anti type shite yet 4 weeks later present a bunch of opinion to an audience of over a million (1 in 8 of the global JW audience) which is full of personal opinion. This opinion then becomes the rules because 1 in 8 heard in from a GB member's mouth directly. 1 in 8 has lapped it up and can refer to it time and time again without it ever being in print.

It's a tool that has been used for years by the WTS but the ability to use technology to get GB talks into halls directly takes it to a whole new level.

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Geoffrey Jackson hints at the identity of the King of the North

by scotoma in

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the big news at the annual corporate meeting was probably the sudden realization that gog of .

magog was some group of nations.

the news was given by geoffrey jackson.

konceptual99

They know nothing. It's just a bogus method of raising expectations without having to say anything of consequence. I think they will be very cautious about ever putting a stake in the ground on this one. Be prepared for it to become less concrete and more abstract.

Ultimately they never can know who the KOTN is - since the whole thing is untrue.

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Vic'n'Bob ... in the US?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i must be mad for starting this thread, but here goes: i quite like vic reeves and bob mortimer.

before you all jump on me, i realise that their humour is often childish and very hit-or-miss, to say the least.. however, when i'm in the right mood, some of their sketches are simply hilarious.. i was also wondering how british humour is received in other countries, particularly the us.. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oizyptckdz8.

konceptual99

Love 'em. Saw them on tour several times. Brilliant.