That is not surprising, but it is still messed up!
I wonder how your friend continues on as an elder with the knowledge that he has? It must nag at him!
when i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.
i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.
they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".
That is not surprising, but it is still messed up!
I wonder how your friend continues on as an elder with the knowledge that he has? It must nag at him!
the october watchtower 2014 is now up on jw org.
regarding the new covenant they write.
the governing body sets the scene in the first article by stating how they are like jesus and as humans they are sinless in god's eyes.. then on page 24 they state this.
Glad I'm off the crazy train! WTH was I thinking?
Feelo so sad for those that would lose the ones they love if they jumped off.
and i mean celebrated!
it was a cracking barbecue party for around 40 good friends and neighbours as well as my 'never jw' cousins and one of my brothers and his family.. .
drank a bit too much, embarrassed my kids with some 'dad dancing' and laughed until 2 in the morning.
Happy 50th!
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i'm really looking forward to what the day may bring...... wish you were here to share it with me..
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
hi to everyone, my name is jerry, i am 56 and i live in tralee, kerry ireland.
i will not bore you with the all too familiar details, suffice it to say i was a prime candidate for indoctrination/ brainwashing.
the surprising aspect is that my wife, a staunch catholic started a study soon after i did.
WELCOME!
i've been given permission to post news of our friend.. kate hasn't been very well.
not well at all.
i think much of it has been a delayed reaction to her df'ing, the general fallout when leaving the wtbs and family issues.. i just wanted to give you guys the heads up and give you a chance to show how much we care about her.. thanks for listening..
Sending good thoughts your way, Kate/Sam. Hope things are looking brighter for you soon. One day at a time, my friend.
Lots of people who care about you here.
so one of my in-laws, a born in dub, started asking me questions about the issues i am having with the religion.
so i told her, rather carefully, how i discovered all the child pedophile cases, went over some of the case details, explained it is occurring all over the world, so isn't just some random misunderstanding, but is widespread hiding of child sex u all abuse.
she was horrified.
Her elders will give her some routine answers about imperfect men, waiting on Jehovah, this is God's chosen org. on earth, the light keeps getting brighter, etc. and more than likely, she wil swallow it all as her cult personality regains its footing.
BUT, Watchtower free gave you some AWESOMEtalking points! Take advantage of them!
my coworker actually was involved in training me, and i used to be a quiet good little jw when he met me.
i first shared information about him on this forum 7 years ago when he was just starting to learn that i was no longer going to the kingdom hall.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/125918/1/pressure-to-conform-from-his-wifes-congregation#.u6t3c5rx-uy.
Love to hear about families exiting together! Thank you for sharing, and glad to hear your friend's wife is doing well after such a scare!
i totally discovered ttat in 2004.. at first, i told my jw relatives each & every thing i found out.
they didn't appreaciate it.. then, i read coc and realized that that was the wrong approach.
so, from about 2007-2013, i rarely said anything to them abou the jws.. well, i just don't care any more to pussy foot around them, making nice, and smiling.
You go, skeeter1!
i have a sweet jw friend.
she is elderly and had heart problems and is hard of hearing.. she is a tiny thing and very loving.
she is a convert and had been "in" for around 20 years.. she came "in "after her divorce.. we started hanging out together a couple years ago when i called her for a ride to the meetings.. .
What a wonderful story! Thank you for sharing!